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I don't see it is certain kids "deserving more" than other kids; rather that [b]ALL children deserve to be challenged[/b] and educated appropriately.  [b]I also believe that all children deserve to have a peer group of children with similar intellectual characteristics and abilities.[/b]  If that can happen in a neighborhood school, so much the better.  We have a great neighborhood school, but highly gifted children are not challenged there in the way that they are at the TAG center school -- although I think the center school certainly has room for improvement.

Why do I want my kids challenged?  I don't want them to grow up thinking that learning is easy and will always come naturally to them.  I want them to learn from an early age how to work hard to master things that are difficult!  I want them to be confronted with interesting, new ideas every day, and not come home from school thinking that there is nothing in school to learn.   I want them to be challenged with new ideas, and with the knowledge that they have to work hard, be organized, that they can't just coast through school.   I also want them to be interested in going to school.  I know that's what most parents want for their kids.

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By your logic then, all kids with below average intellectual abilities only deserve to be educated in a group of kids with below average intellectual abilities? When there is such a strong correlation between ability and income and income is a proxy for race, what you are proposing would increase segregation in PGCPS and not improve the historical patterns. Also note that such early tracking is part of the problem in the US and almost all educational research points to it being a huge negative on the system.

And again, highly gifted children who score in the 80th percentile are not highly gifted, bright and hard working, yes, but not highly gifted. Calling them that actually does a disservice to those kids because it negates the effect of effort on their achievement. [/quote]

Segregation in PG County schools?  Are you not familiar with the demographics in PG?  Segregation isn't an issue, because the county itself is majority AA.  In fact, a lot of middle to upper middle class AA families in PG send their kids to private school!  In PG, the issue isn't race.

Segregation is an issue in Maryland, but it is not an issue in PG.  In Maryland, the segregation happens by county.

Now, the issue in PG might be SES segregation -- i.e. the middle class kids of all races being separated out from the lower class kids.  But as it stands now, segregation is not an issue in PG County Schools.  I don't think there are ANY schools (even gifted TAG schools) that are still not at least 50 percent AA.

In the past, yes, it was an issue, but there was significant white flight from PG County.  So of all of the problems PG County schools have, racial segregation is not one of them.  Class segregation, perhaps, but not racial segregation.[/quote]

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