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[quote=Anonymous] [quote]*I feel sad for the students who have to take this test — not many will be successful.[/quote] Noted -- but not a reason to not test. [quote] *There is too much “stuff” going on the screen at once. It is difficult to move the icons where you want them.[/quote] Good reason to do a field test, and these problems should be fixed. [quote] Students don’t know how to use the “mouse” everything for them is “touch screen”.[/quote] Students will need to learn to use a mouse. [quote]If you leave the screen for a short period of time the information on the screen will be gone when you return.[/quote] Again, that is a problem that should be fixed. I did not have that problem on the PARCC test [quote] [b]“I tried the grade six-grade math—it was humbling. It was scary.[/b][/quote] OK as a teacher, I am really sad about this but I know it to be true. ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHERS (for the most part) STINK AT BASIC MATH!! I have seen this over and over again. THey mostly are scared of math, and cannot handle even basic math skills, miuch less algebra. This is a huge problem, not the fault of Common Core, and not something we can easily fix. [quote]*I had technology problems. If kids have these problems they’ll just quit.[/quote] These computer-administered tests sound great in principle, but yes there will be tech problems and yes, it will be a disaster the first year. [quote] *Double-wide monitors would help. I am a huge fan of concept maps but notepad does not let you do that on Smarter Balance. You can’t even copand paste from the notepad into the test.[/quote] Don't know what that means. [quote] *This was more of a test on the computer skills than on the math concepts. If I was a student I would just pickout an answer and move on.[/quote] This is definitely a problem, except for kids who have strong computer skills. [quote] *Too tedious—kids will get sick of it and just guess to move on. Kids won’t even get past the computer directions.[/quote] Maybe SmartBalance should just stick to paper and pencil tests? [quote] *I am concerned that the math test is not necessarily testing students’ math abilities since there is so much reading. This test seems to assess how well the students read the math questions more than their math skills. Thus, because of the amount of reading, I question the validity of our receiving a math ability score.[/quote] Extremely valid point here. [quote]We need to teach students to distinguish between on correct answer and many correct answers. There are questions that tell the students to choose the correct answers.[/quote] Apparently sometimes students need to choose all the correct answers, not just one correct answer? Good idea to teach them how to do that! [quote] *The test assumes the students are skilled in such areas as pre-reading and questions and if they are not, it assumes they will learn while taking the test to read the questions in advance of the reading. [/quote] Of course students should be learning how to pre-read questions. This is called skimming. [quote] The answers were not straight forward—for example on the math test they did not want the answer to the equation, they wanted to know if the answer was 2/3rd greater than what you started with. [b]I understand this is import ant but this test will be exhausting for the kids.[/b] [/quote] Thinking hard can be exhausting! [quote]*The idea of the best answer and then there being 2 or more good and appropriate answers. [b]It felt like a trick. We’re going to look bad for a few years.[/b] [/quote] Basically this person is saying there should be one correct answer and 3 obviously wrong answers. [quote][b]*I did 30 questions in an hour and then had to take a break. [/b]My eyes hurt and my shoulders felt strained.[b] When I returned 5 minutes later the work was gone.[/b] [/quote] OK that's a really big probalem and needs to be fixed. [quote]*Each question is totally different than the one before it creating confusion which creates more confusion for the test takers. [/quote] ot sure how this is different from any other standardized test - might be useful feedback. [b]*Frustration level builds as your take the test creating mental despair—students will shut down.[/b] [quote]Many of the math questions seemed to have no basis in the real world and skills that will never be used in life. Students will need to be taught the technology skills for the test.—scrolling through screens, highlighting, scanning the questions, touch typing, and more. [/quote] Good skills to learn! [/quote]
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