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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sorry about the disappointing news.  There must have been a lot of kids with similar grades applying.  [b]They may also take into consideration gender and race in their decisions[/b].[/quote]

They don't, and cannot do that, legally speaking.

Don't say idiotic things that reflect your ignorance.[/quote]

Actually, you CAN as long as you use a proxy for race.[/quote]

They may not consider race. Period.

If they are considering something that is not race, then they are not considering race, no matter how much you may claim that it is a proxy.[/quote]

A well known proxy for race is SES.  It allows one to get around the limitations over race placed by the case MCPS lost.  [/quote]

SES is not a proxy for race. SES is SES. Also, considering SES is legal. Also, please explain how they would admit based on SES. Did your child's application include your household income and education?

But sure, if you want to tell yourself that the reason they didn't admit your qualified, deserving, non-brown kid is because they had to admit some unqualified, undeserving brown kid, go ahead.[/quote]

New poster here - I have no idea what is done or allowed - but with a background in survey data analysis and behavioral sciences I had to chime in that there are certainly ways to get at race or ses without explicitly using race or ses or other demographic characteristics of interest (not to say they are doing this or that they should ) The easiest way would be by trying to select candidates based on their home school district and using general population means of how that district is composed.  If a home school is predominantly in an area with a certain race, ethnicity, ses, etc. chances are, if you slect from that school you are more likely to get a student of whatever group you are targeting.  Sure, not every student at that school will match the specific criteria, but if you select more from that school over a school with fewer of the targeted characteristic, you have a better chance of hitting your target.

That said, I agree with PP that claiming that there are undeserving kids getting in purely based on a given demographic characteristic is icky.  We all know that there are more deserving kids than there are spots! So, even if such demographic targeting exists, it doesn't even imply that the 'trageted group' is of lower quality. [/quote]

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