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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]and Steve jobs got credit for Apple but many more behind the scenes did the work, so what?

[b]What is your point this happens everywhere everyday[/b]

Look at the guy at 3m who invented post its.  [/quote]

I wonder if the tables were turned, would you still be saying this?

A minority is credited as one of history's greatest inventors, but it was later discovered that a white man actually did much of the work. Guess what--he would be labeled a fraud and repudiated.

But when whites do it, it's okay? 
Just goes to show you that minorities are held to double standards.[/quote]

Minority here & couldn't disagree more.

I worked on the Hill for a while for a Minority politician. The politicians speeches, ideas, legislation, etc were all written by his White staff. He still got credit. For centuries, apprentices always assisted the master craftsman but the master craftsman always got credit.

Chefs, sous-chefs, same thing. Architects (think Frank Lloyd Wright and others), all the same thing.

This has nothing to do with race. It's just the nature of apprenticeship. The truly talented apprentices are able to "break out" later on to establish themselves under their own names. So on, and so forth.[/quote]
Wow-- it has nothing do with race. While I understand your point about apprenticeship, I think you are very off-base. Most of these things occurred during the time of segregation, jim-crow, legalized racism...but of course race didn't have anything to do with these folks not getting any credit. Naive much??[/quote]

Okay, first of all your hypothetical situation did not include anything about jim-crow laws, etc. You're only now conveniently throwing them in. I'll play along in any event.

I'm sure Alexander Bell had plenty of white apprentices that never received credit for anything. I guess that's because of socioeconomic class? I'm sure they weren't all poor. Perhaps because they had the wrong last name? Where does this sort of thinking end, PP?

How did George Washington Carver do it? He made his numerous inventions in his own right and not under another person. The guy was brilliant and a trailblazer. He didn't dwell on the sorts of things that you are. He didn't waste his time proposing hypotheticals like "if i were a white man, imagine the things I could accomplish..." No, he just went out and did it.

I think oftentimes we (and I mean we because I'm a minority) hold ourselves back by focusing too much on the past, self-imposed limitations, and eternally playing victim. We shouldn't brush it under the rug. It was there, it existed, we suffered and we must remember. BUT we eventually overcame. So did many discriminated and persecuted peoples throughout history. There is still much to be done, but obsessively focusing on the injustices of this era (and again, many before it) will not better our community or this world.[/quote]

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