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Reply to ""P" grade even if incomplete or not all correct?"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No, I am not bothered. First, not everything is a P. Second, these are elementary school children, not adults. Third, elementary school is not a competition. Hard work does result in something different than mediocre or bad work -- namely, it results in you having done your best.[/quote] Then using your logic, why grade anything? Just tell kids to do their best and no need to have anything graded. Teachers can assign a subjective grade for reporting purposes to the county. It doesn't matter, we patents told them to do their best, no feedback is required. Give me a break.[/quote] Yes, actually, I would be happy with no grades in elementary school. There are other forms of feedback from teachers that are much more useful. And in elementary school especially, children should be learning to love learning for the sake of learning, not for the sake of grades. (This is another difference between elementary school and the adult workplace, given that adults typically do not work for the sake of working, but rather for the sake of getting paid.)[/quote] I am afraid that your view is very short sighted. If your view is adopted, this country will be in big trouble. Regardless, here is a short response on this matter from someone else. "For education, an ultimate goal is to get students motivated to learn by themselves such that when they are out of schools, they will overcome challenges by themselves through learning. However, without seeing where they are and knowing what they can achieve, it is absolutely hard for them to get motivated. Parents have been wondering whether there was a visible path for any P student to get an ES grade. All of us understand that the vibrancy of our society is from diversity instead of all-the-same. It is very hard for anyone to know what the true strength of any student is when he/she gets P all over the place. For these straight P students, their parents do not know where to encourage their kids. More importantly, without visibility and clarity of the path towards ES, straight P students can be less willing to go extra miles in order to further build up their core strength. This is true for all students regardless of their social-economical status. I think that maybe, all of us agree that simply producing straight-P students may not necessarily forecast a happy ending for an education system, families, and our society. "[/quote] I am not the poster to whom you are responding, but I have to say I agree with them. I would be fine without grades in elementary school. I understand that there are areas of the new grading system that is murky. However, I think the most valuable information comes from the teacher and not necessarily the grade on the paper. We are lucky that our DC's teacher is very good about putting specific comments on DC'S work and on the weekly assessment. This allows us to keep track of areas of weakness and strength. To me the comments are much more telling than the actual grade, as it give us "specific" information as to where DC needs help and exactly what DC is learning. At this point, we want to instill in DC a love of learning and reaching DC'S highest level, not in comparison to others. Once this is ingrained and becomes DC's basic mode of operation, I feel this is what is going to best ensure DC's ability to learn, work through challenges and aim for DC'S definition of success.[/quote] 10:15 here. Your arguments are 1) If there is a good teacher, .... 2) Knowing the path toward ES will scare students away from "love of learning ..." Those are questionable arguments. In addition, I am not sure how you can generalize. [/quote]
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