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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For any religious person with wealth, when people meet you, they are wondering why you haven't given your money away to the needy.  They may not say it out loud, and they may not even know that they are thinking this consciously, but they are thinking it.  This is one of the reasons Mitt Romney lost.  People just didn't trust him, and they couldn't quite put their fingers on why they didn't. The wealth is the reason.

Jesus wasn't wealthy, and he did call upon people to be broke.  He asked the disciples to give up their livelihoods. He cast the money changers out of the temple.  A lot of people on the religious right might argue that giving money away encourages dependency,but there are plenty of organizations that just invest in businesses started by the poor, or give people in developing countries a one time benefit of a productive asset, like a cow or an irrigation pump.  [/quote]
Creating wealth is for the building of the kingdom -- that does not mean giving everything away so that you are broke.
Do you really think Jesus is coming back for a broke and busted Church?
Do you realize that there is a difference between what happened what we are called to do before and after Jesus went to the Cross?[/quote]

There's a big difference between giving everything away until you're broke, and having a personal net worth of multi-millions of dollars. [/quote]
So so you think that every wealthy person is anti-God and that every wealthy minister is a crook?
I think there are a lot of crooked pastors who deceive and "steal" money from there followers.
I also think there are those who are not crooked, but make a lot of money from writing books, making dvds, etc.
You have to be able to discern one from the other, but I think that it is a mistake, and frankly not scriptural to think that a pastor, preacher, etc. cannot accumulate wealth legitimately.[/quote]

I think they have a lot of cognitive dissonance going on, for certain.

I don't think wealthy "religious" people are anti-god - as an atheist who isn't obsessed with accumulating as much wealth as I can, I don't believe that belief in god correlated to wealth whatsoever.

But I do think that people who praise an ascetic, humble man while trying to accumulate millions for their personal gain, tell themselves a lot of crazy stories to justify their habits. It certainly doesn't make religious sense. [/quote]

Not being funny, but if you are an atheist, how can you speak about what is scriptural or spiritual?
Bottom line is that you don't believe any of it anyway so your understanding and interpretation is limited at best.[/quote]

Because though I'm an atheist, I come from a religious family and have multiple degrees in religious studies. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that most people informed about religion and scripture, are arreligious, and many people don't even know or follow their own faith (hence the abundance of prosperity preachers). [/quote]

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