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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]As another poster pointed out if you have any doubts on the anti female and oppressive nature of Islam towards female Google aisha and Mohammed and read on the age of child arranged marriages. This is only in regards to very traditional and strict islamic teachings more modern cultures don't necessarily follow it but it worries me that many countries are ruled under Islamic law. [/quote] You may want to check the date of that marriage. I'm pretty sure it was a long time ago. Moreover, if we are going to go back that many years, you may want to check the ages at which various Western, Christians were married. For instance, Richard II of England married Isabel of France when she was 7. Young Henry, the son of Henry II married Margaret of France when she was only 10 Of course, Young Henry himself was only 13. Similar to what you say about Islam, the marriage practices of the British royal family are not given much concern in most modern cultures. Sadly, modern American culture is not one of those and I'm concerned about the impact of royal marriage traditions on our own culture. [/quote] Are you trying to liken the issue of child marriage in Islam to child marriage in Europe centuries ago? If so, I don't understand how you can compare the two. Child marriage is illegal in Europe now. Child marriage still happens very frequently in most Islamic countries. It's still an issue in today's world that is going to be really hard to eradicate, given Islam's stance on marriagable age, and Muhammad's marriage to Aisha. [/quote] I was comparing the marriage of Aisha and Mohammed centuries ago to marriages in Europe centuries ago. What causes you to object to that comparison? And, if marriages from centuries ago are off limits, why are you yourself bringing up Mohammed? Where child marriage exists today among Muslims, it has much more to do with local culture than it does with Islam. To suggest that because some Yemeni tribes might engage in child marriage reflects on Islam in general is similar to saying that Warren Jeffs and other Christian wack jobs tarnish the entire Christian religion. [/quote] It's more than just "cultural" in those places, although the extreme poverty in such areas do impact heavily on the rate of child marriage - poor parents with too many mouths to feed try to marry their young daughters off so they don't have to provide for them anymore, and also to receive the bride price. When they try to pass laws banning child marriage, the religious authorities say no way, because it goes against Islam. A few years ago, when Yemen tried to set a marriage age, protestors (including tons of women) took to the streets to say such a law would be against Islam. Child marriage centures ago in Europe do NOT have the same impact today as Muhammad's marriage to Aisha. Muhammad instructed Muslims to follow his Sunnah and do the same things that he did during his life time. Thus, banning child marriage really is going against Islam, it's going against the Sunnah. [/quote]
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