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I agree with you, but let's be real.  Harvard, Yale, Princeton have always been considered the "elite" of the Ivy League, with [b]Penn [/b]and Cornell bringing up the rear.  Stanford and MIT too have always been elite.  This has nothing to do with USNWR.  [/quote]

Actually, Penn is a great example of a school that has benefited tremendously from the power and influence of U.S. News. Penn certainly used to be considered the "safety" of the Ivies, but as its admit rates have decreased considerably while its ranking has risen considerably (the two are obviously tied, as a large portion of US News's ranking is tied to low admit rates), Penn's reputation has improved substantially, while Cornell/Dartmouth/Brown have all suffered.

Someone brought up NYU - I'm not sure what its undergrad ranking is (it's still not in the top 10-15, certainly), but its astonishing rise in prestige among law schools is directly attributable to its U.S. News ranking, again suggesting that the power of that publication can't be under-estimated. Sure, you always had the power-house undergrads and law schools, and that list hasn't changed much since US News started its rankings, but there are some schools whose reputations have literally been made by US News. That's a pretty impressive feat.[/quote]

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