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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PP here with 133 WISC. That was in original file, so now we have to appeal. What do we appeal with? Looking at Stanford or Woodcock but not sure about the difference, and what DC has better chance on. Does Diana Dalhren also give advice on what is better to do? Have not called her yet. [/quote] You could do both Stanford Binet (IQ test) and Woodcock Johnson (achievement test). I've read on these threads of a situation similar to yours (strong WISC submitted with original screening file) where the family appealed with Stanford Binet and WJ, and their DC did get in on appeal. Diana Dahlgren has great advice since she used to be on the AAP board or whatever it is called, and her own two children were also in AAP. She was great with our DC. Our DC had a situation similar to some others in that the NNAT and FxAT were not too high (in realm of 80 or 90 percentile), and he still was accepted for AAP. WISC was good (FSIQ in 120s, GAI equivalent in 130s), in the range of where it needed to be, but nothing like some of the extraordinary scores I have seen on this board. DC did have a subscore that was quite high, related to his areas of passionate interest, so I'm thinking that made a difference, and we submitted a strong WJ too. GBRS was 12, so reasonable but not stellar. However, some of the comments on the GBRS portrayed DC as exceptional in certain areas, standing out from peers, and these areas again related to his passionate interests. It looks like he didn't need to be good at everything, and I am wondering if the specific comments on the GBRS mean more than just the number. We submitted great letters of recommendation from people who had worked with DC for anywhere from 2 to 4 years on academic types of extracurriculars. And we submitted what I thought were strong work samples. Only one we submitted was something that had been done at school. Others were DC's own special projects that he loves to do at home. Maybe that helped show that he is "gifted" (as lots of people have said that he is, from his earliest years). Homework is mostly worksheets and spelling tests so I wouldn't have thought those would be worthwhile to submit. DC is constantly churning out creative projects at home and working to learn about new topics, and I could provide examples of things he had said that seemed to show a high level of thoughtfulness and insight. He had done well on the school exercise that was submitted with the screening file. DC had almost all 4's on the report card, except for some work habit or organization type things (3's). A note that he is young for his grade. I think the narrative from the WISC and WJ reports helped to show that testing is not DC's thing (demeanor and types of mistakes). I'll never know specifically what he missed on the NNAT and FxAT, but when I see him do fill-in-the-bubble type homework I see that the multiple-choice format opens the door for him to guess and not think things through. He doesn't seem to have the maturity and focus to consider all the options and pick the best one, but rather will fill in the bubble for the first thing that seems like it might be right. On homework or tests he often misses the easier questions and gets the harder questions right. Very frustrating to see as a parent. I encourage him to go back and check his work but he just skims over things and I know that he isn't really reconsidering the correctness of his answers. It makes sense to me that he did better on the WISC where he probably had to give more thoughtful answers, ones that he came up with on his own and not multiple choice. I feel for those whose DC's had such excellent scores and did not get in. Very puzzling. The only thing I can think is to give a fuller picture of your DC: his/her passions, any special accomplishments and recognition, projects that DC initiated and completed on his/her own. And of course new tests. But I am certainly not an expert so I would contact Diana Dahlgren or another psychologist with professional expertise and experience. Good luck to all. Children will eventually realize their potential with or without AAP placement.[/quote]
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