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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really and truly do not understand what the problem is with having "Proficient" as a grade. It is like substituting "A" for "P" -- so what? pro·fi·cient (pr-fshnt) adj. Having or marked by an advanced degree of competence, as in an art, vocation, profession, or branch of learning. n. Is your child learning...is your child mastering the material? Newsflash -- the grades are all just symbols...made up... Somebody made up the system using "A", "B" , etc. Someone made this up. Just because it says proficient...doesn't mean they have dummied down the curriculum. They are just using a different symbol. The system is by no means perfect...but to be all up in arms because you don't like the way proficient sounds...well that is ridiculous to me.[/quote] LOL! I commented on what you said...you need to know whether or not your child is learning to read and do math. If my reply was not "substantive" enough for you...how about this: I do not think the 'ABCD' told me anything either. Maybe our teacher is some superstar...an anomaly....but we have received a lot of information from her and feel we are given solid understanding of where our child is and what DC is learning... We feel it is accurate because it pretty much matches up with what our personal evaluation is... Do we think the math is weak..thus far ... we do So we supplement... I like the "deeper" evaluation areas of metacognition, etc. I like the "idea" of an integrative curriculum... Has there been perfect execution thus far...no way... You know we had E G S F in graduate school and nobody complained because it was obvious it translated into ABCD and they later did change it to ABCD. But the 2.0's P does not translate into A. It seems to translate into ABC. With ES being A+++ if it is really only 1% as someone said. Grading this way lost much meaningful information. On top of this, they are not grades for reading or math. They are grades for metacognition and intellectual risk taking. I don't know about you. I don't trust school teachers to judge these and it tells me nothing whether my child is learning to read or do math. [/quote] I am sorry but if you do not know if your child is reading or can count...that is your fault. Like I said...system is not perfect...and still being refined... but I did not think the old system was perfect either...and needed refinement.[/quote] I know exactly where my child is. Thank you! You did not comment on the substance of my argument at all. You only attacked my supposed ignorance of my child's academic abilities. Don't you want to know what the teachers think your child is at academically? Do you really think that the grading system that are being used is informative? If you do, you are either brainwashed or a MCPS employee. The old system was not perfect, but grading each subject by ABCD is not what is broken. [/quote] So we supplement... I like the "deeper" evaluation areas of metacognition, etc. I like knowing that my child cannot just "read" the words and phrases...but has real "comprehension" of them... I like the "idea" of an integrative curriculum... I like that DC's class had to write and perform a play...as a way of integrating writing, comprehension, social studies... Has there been perfect execution thus far...no way... I don't mind where things are headed...but I was not a fan of "traditional" teaching anyway... Too much teaching primarily to tests and just going for the grade as opposed to true and meaningful learning... Plus...I realize a lot of the grading and teaching was subjective anyway...teacher 1 grades on a curve...teacher 2 doesn't count homework...same grading system....but 2 different teachers come to their grades in 2 different ways... Maybe I'm an outlier... Look...I'm not trying to argue with you...I don't really care if you like the system or not...you have a right to your opinion... But just because I have a different one does not make me brainwashed or some MCPS employee.... HAHHA...that is just silly. [/quote] OOPS....Misplaced part of my post: this was supposed to be the beginning of it: LOL! I commented on what you said...you need to know whether or not your child is learning to read and do math. If my reply was not "substantive" enough for you...how about this: I do not think the 'ABCD' told me anything either. Maybe our teacher is some superstar...an anomaly....but we have received a lot of information from her and feel we are given solid understanding of where our child is and what DC is learning... We feel it is accurate because it pretty much matches up with what our personal evaluation is... Do we think the math is weak..thus far ... we do So we supplement... I like the "deeper" evaluation areas of metacognition, etc. I like the "idea" of an integrative curriculum... Has there been perfect execution thus far...no way... [/quote]
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