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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hi all, my DD is a sophmore in HS so we're just starting to truly think about this college application process (but no, we are not only now starting to think about having a [b]well-rounded kid with a variety of interests, that's been her whole life[/b]). But I'm new to reading this sub, and I see lots of people talk about T10 and T5. Are these the top 10 schools according to US News & World Report? Or where is the "official" list of T10 colleges and universities for undergrad?[/quote] That would not the recipe for T10 or even T15-T20 or T4 SLACs The recipe, for unhooked, to be in serious contention is to first have the academic tablestakes: all As and in the top 5-15% of the high school depending on if it is an above average public or a good private, SAT 740+ on each section, ideally 770+ on math if any stem interest exists, top rigor in all core areas of subjects(math science history english foreign language) which may already be off the table for a sophomore not on a path to do it. If AP's are a part of top rigor at the school they need to have taken the hardest ones and gotten mostly 5s. The AP score distribution has been changed such that 5s are often 15-20% of scores and 4s make up another large chunk. Getting almost all 5 is expected since 2024 when the shift happened. In addition to that, LOR's that indicate intellectual vitality and that they are one of the top students that year. In addition to that, deep longstanding interest conveyed by at least one EC that started before high school, plus at least one EC that shows impact in the wider community, and 1 that confirms the intellectual curiosity outside the classroom. That is a minimum, but would be viewed much better than 1-2 year commitments to 10 different ECs and without much depth or impact. [/quote] Understand that there is virtually no difference in the top 30-40 universities on the USNWR list when it comes to education. Understand that there is virtually no difference in the top 10-20 colleges on the USNWR list when it comes to education. Understand that the top SLACs will provide superior undergraduate education outside of CS and engineering than any of the other schools. This will come with the tradeoff of attending a quite small and often isolated college. Understand that many on DCUM can't handle the truth and are driven to somehow arbitrarily stack rank schools when one cannot realistically do so. Pointing out that these attempts at ranking cannot be taken seriously or that SLACs provide a superior education will cause them pain. That pain is good pain because it helps them grow. Embrace the pain.[/quote]
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