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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Colleges don’t care about extracurriculars unless you’re in the top 1% of the nation[/quote] Wrong. If this kid recruits successfully, that is all the school will care about. So that could be GMU or Marymount or Yale. If he is NOT a good enough athlete for the schools he is looking at, then his EC as an athlete will count like any other EC and this could hurt him if it is all he has as an EC and it is a selective school.[/quote] Not at Yale or other T-20 schools. Recruiting successfully means gotten the endorsement from the coach [b]and[/b] from the admission office, which typically will issue a [i]Likely Letter[/i] to confirm candidate is qualified academically. These schools will require a pre-read (full transcript, test scores, all ECs, resume, etc.) in the spring/summer before senior year to assess potential recruit's academic strength. Look up 'Academic Index' requirements for Ivy League. In practice, if the candidate is truly outstanding in a revenue-generating D1 sport (think football or basketball) then the academic index threshold could be lowered to an extent, but the overall Academic Index for all recruits needs to be compensated by other athletes in different sports, e.g. fencing which tends to have the highest academic profile.[/quote] Here is the problem..two Yale recruits for the same team can have very different recruiting experiences. The top 3 baseball recruits that the coach really wants just need to have high grades, strong rigor and at least like a 1350 SAT (this is Yale currently...I know there were headlines on how Yale may change how they treat athletes). He doesn't care if they do anything else but play baseball. The bottom 3 recruits have a very different experience. They are told they need high SAT scores...probably 1530/50+. The coach needs them to bring up the Academic Index. They should look a lot like your overall Yale applicant. Recruits 4-6 are somewhere in between. Have at least a 1475 or so. Probably don't care so much about other ECs, but nice to show something. Also, Ivy League D1 is acting much more like Power 4 D1 with athletic recruiting. Probably 30% of the team is committed by August before their junior year of HS, and around 80% is committed before the Summer of senior year. Again, talking baseball specifically as other sports have their own calendars. Duke and Stanford are going to be completely different from Yale as Power 4 schools. Duke basketball players just need to meet minimum NCAA standards. Their top recruits will only be there for one year anyway. You can't compare Power 4 recruiting at Duke, Stanford, UCB and Vanderbilt (all top 20) to any of the other top 20 schools.[/quote] Along the same lines, I've heard that certain good schools use one sport to raise the average across all sports, and, more specifically, the cross country team has an above-average GPA/SAT score to compensate for the football team. [/quote] that's not how it works despite what you "heard"[/quote]
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