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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oxy is closer to LA and more chill. Better for media, arts, and industry connections to entertainment (like music). 20 mins from DTLA. Has a hippie/boho feel. Pomona is more academic and driven. They have the consortium as their bubble where most of social life occurs. They are in the inland empire about 60-ish minutes from DTLA. But they are closer to Orange County (45 mins) and have a suburban/corporate feel. Both are quite leftist.[/quote] Much more academic and driven. It’s not close. There’s no reason to pick Occidental if they’re a similar cost and you’re a serious academic student. Most LAC students are not interested in entertainment and the film industry- schools like USC and Chapman do a much better job. Occidental is not even necessarily better than Pitzer which is regarded as the worst of the 5Cs. It’s like the difference between Yale and Wake Forest. Both good schools, but one is in a whole different league. [/quote] Oxy is academically better IMO than Pitzer. Pitzer is permanently test-blind and vets students only by unreliable criteria - GPA and essays. You can see how that leads to an inconsistency of students. Also, Pitzer gives zero merit aid for top students. Oxy gives merit aid for top students ($20-35K/year guaranteed for 4 years). So that brings tuition down to $35-45K/year at Oxy with merit vs. $70K/year to attend Pitzer. Some people don't want to be holed up in a suburb in the Inland Empire living in non-AC raging heat (note: Oxy added AC to all dorms after the heat waves in LA a few years back. Now every dorm has it. Pomona still does not.) Oxy also lets all students park their car in a student garage for free, so they can get around, explore the area much more than carless 5Cs who remain mostly stuck in their bubble or taking the 1 hour each way train or paying for costly ubers. [/quote] Absolutely - Oxy is better than Pitzer because… Pomona dorms don’t have AC. Doesn’t matter that Pitzer dorms have AC, Oxy is better. Also, Oxy is obvious academically better because… Oxy is a much easier admit and has to offer merit aid to attract students. That’s not at all nonsensical. [/quote] Are you ok? I'm actually in CA and my sample size of students going to both colleges via friend and family (including one niece at each) is probably larger than yours. You can get into Pitzer with lots of community service, less rigor and mediocre grades if you apply ED, but you need to be full pay as they don't think it's worthwhile to award any merit. At Oxy, to get their top $35K/year merit, you need tons of APs/high rigor, mostly As and 5s on APs (which they accept along with standardized tests). Pitzer is fully test blind, including AP tests. They genuinely look at very little except for activism and passion in the essays. Scripps is far better IMO than Pitzer and like Oxy, does provide merit aid for top students.[/quote]
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