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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The most overrepresented student at Yale is the private school graduate. By far. That will NEVER change.[/quote] 64% of matriculants came from public high schools. 36% of matriculants came from independent day, boarding, and religious schools. when you say "by far" what does that mean? [/quote] Only 10% of American kids go to private high schools. Filling over a third of your incoming class with them is very disproportionate.[/quote] I thought you'd say that, but I think you have to consider college-bound kids. Only about 60% of high schoolers move onto college. And the vast majority go to community or public school. So I'm not sure we can knock Yale for national trends. Or you can think about class and race. For example, for the last 10 years now, more than half of all white kids in NYC do not use the public school system. and those that do are clustered in a small sample of schools. I dont think you can blame Yale for the situation the largest public school system in America. Are you saying Yale is a lot worse than the other top 20 private schools? I think it's pretty much in line. [/quote] I'm not saying that. I think this report was done at Yale but I think it reflects perceptions in this country of all the elite levels private universities. They are by the advantaged for the advantaged.[/quote] I think that's true for every top 100 college. For some kids it's about tutoring to bring the 1350 SAT to a 1450 and get into SMU. For some it's about getting the 1550 to 1580. Plus application coaches etc, which is certainly not limited to the most elite. My kids are in a strong public here and plenty have them. It's a money thing. Plus just having the social capital to lock in early about all matters - which you can't do if your family has more pressing day to day concerns of getting dinner on the table. You could do a chart about kids who see a dentist twice a year and kids who get into a top 100 school and it would be a straight line. Or families who use laundromats and have kids who get into a top 100 school and it would be a different straight line. It's about families having time and access and money to even think about this. But most kids who are in the top .5% are getting into HYP. All the coaching and tutoring in the world can't do that. Which is why about 40% are from private and not 70%. Not that it matters - these kids dont even need these schools. They can go to NYU and be just fine. (which is why I never understood varsity blues parents .. you dont need this!)[/quote]
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