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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Honest question as a fellow 4th grade parent — will these programs exist when our kids are trying for them next year? We’re currently in a CES and it’s been such a wonderful experience we really hope to get into the MS programs…

By the scores here my kid should qualify, so it’s a matter of the lottery and whether this will actually exist…. [/quote]

The CES kids are evaluated as part of the cohort from their CES elementary not their home elementary.  They’re not going to take 10-15 kids from the same ES in the MS magnet programs. At least, my kid who went to CES did not get offered a MS magnet option. My less academically inclined but still solid student who did not get into or go to CES got offered MS magnet seats in the summer out of the wait pool. We declined. All of the CES kids from my non-CES kid’s grade in our neighborhood ES came back for MS and did not go to MS magnet.

Because they are no longer application programs I think there are a lot more first round admittees who decline. At least a couple years ago there seemed to be a lot of wait pool movement.[/quote]

It's not based purely on "luck" - there is an objective component based on grades and MAP threshholds.  My kid is a 99 percentiler in MAP-M and MAP-R and yet I'm so sick of the constant whining about magnet admission only going to kids who truly "deserve it."  Who's to say who "deserves" it?  One of the purposes of the magnet is supposed to be enrichment for kids who otherwise would not have a cohort at their home school. Richie Rich at his home W ES or MS is probably going to do just fine. Also, being placed in the lottery means that your kid has been identified for enrichment.  If they are not getting that enrichment at the home school, that is a different issue altogether and clearly much more effort needs to be made to ensure that the enrichment that is promised by MCPS is actually implemented.  There are folks on the MCCPTA Gifted Ed committee doing that work, and they could certainly use more help!

There are a bunch of incorrect things in the first paragraph here.  The middle school magnet admission process does not artificially limit the number of kids coming from a specific elementary school.  Placement in the lottery is solely based on grades and locally normed MAP scores (which are different based on the FARMS level of the elementary school - and the zoned elementary school is used, not the CES elementary, if different).  Once a student is placed in either or both lotteries, selection is just that - a lottery.  Note that for TMPS, some seats are reserved for students who are in boundary for TPMS; not sure if Eastern works the same way.

FWIW, I can think of at least 10 students from my kid's CES elementary who are in one of the two magnet middle school programs (and likely more that I don't know, and more still who got in the pool but did not get an offer or declined an offer). So it's possible and in fact highly probable that a good portion of students in 5th grade CES will make one or both lotteries (especially when you consider they needed a minimum normed MAP-R score to be in CES in the first place - and scores vary year to year but not by that much).

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Thank you for clarifying this!

It seems so backwards that kids get 2 fabulous years in magnet and then back to nothing. Who knows what the district will do about any of these magnet programs going forward... [/quote]

You lotteried into those magnets. We should go back to G&T applications. Those who truly deserve to be in enriched programs. Not based on luck.[/quote][/quote]

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