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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've read in a few threads to not pay too much attention to Cape scores, and i've also seen Charters refenced alot for more of a nuanced curriculum, but how exactly is that measured if Charter standardized testing scores are noticeably lower than a Brent, Janney, Maury, Murch etc? If not using DC Cape as a metric, how do parents measure whether their child is on or above grade level? And other than perceived SES level, differentiate between High performing schools vs lower or mid performing schools?

Its easy to tell what the "best" schools are based on testing scores alone(and location obviously), but i'm curious what metric parents are using to decide whether their kids are at, below or well beyond grade level in various areas?

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You need to compare apples to apples.  You can’t compare schools like Brent, Maury to immersion charters for instance.  The kids at our charter has none, zero ELA in ECE or K and then 50% less thru 5th.  So as studies show, these kids will have lower ELA scores than kids not in immersion.  Eventually they will catch up and surpass.  Also how do you quantify leaning another language vs not.

In addition, kids who don’t do well in the language will likely not do well in math because it is also taught in the language.

So immersion isn’t for everyone.  If my kid was struggling in ELA or math, I would pull the kid out.  But it’s great for kids where school comes easy and it presents as another challenge.

Also besides CAPE testing which is required, our charter uses MAP which I think is the better test.  It is adaptive and used nationally in many states so you can have more of a national comparison rather than just DC.[/quote]

Um no, this is just your wish  :lol: [/quote]

Studies prove you wrong. [/quote]

Sadly, studies prove you wrong. [/quote]

This is fairly well studied actually. Kids in bilingual settings perform better on tests overall, across class lines. E.g., https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6168086/. Are the immersion programs in DC strong enough to produce this result? Unclear. My own kid arrived at immersion program with no English, a mother tongue language, and exposure to another family language. In third grade, she’s now fully fluent in English, mother tongue, and an advanced speaker of the third language. She’s in the 97% percentile in math and 90% percentile in ELA. Would the ELA be higher if she was monolingual? Probably, but the ELA score has jumped significantly in first and second whereas math has stayed the same with little growth. [/quote]

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