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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Starting a new thread for this.

There seems to be a lot of uncertainty about which schools are "TT" versus "2T" versus neither, and I think that in general, since ultimately the use is up to every individual and since people are naturally going to tend to want to talk about the achievements of their own kids in the best possible light, we ought to adopt a less restrictive definition of TT rather than a more restrictive one.

I also think this ought to mostly be a function of admissions selectivity rather than exmissions, as most of the discussions here are about that - where to go, application questions, connected preschools, etc - and at any rate exmissions tend to be a lot noisier than applications.

The 5 K-12 schools basically everyone agrees are TT are HM, Dalton, Trinity, Brearley, and Collegiate. I think we can safely add Riverdale, Spence, and Chapin to that list based on how difficult they currently are to get in to. (I am not including Hunter or Regis since they're free, and in Regis' case not K-12)

Beyond that, some questions to consider:

- Are there any other schools that belong in that group selectivity-wise? For example I know that Saint Ann's has crazy good exmissions but I don't get the impression it's quite as much as a lift as the Manhattan schools to get in to.

- Should K-8 schools be graded on the same scale selectivity-wise as K-12 schools, or should they be graded relative to other K-8s? I would tend to favor the first approach - despite the fact that it would be a very short list - since people aren't always going to specify whether a school is K-8 or K-12.

- Where do we then draw the line for 2T? I think we probably ought to define it pretty expansively too, e.g. Nightingale, Friends, Fieldston, Trevor, CGPS, Browning, Avenues, Poly, Packer, UNIS, LREI, etc, along with most of the top K-8s, since again I think people are going to tend to want to use the most generous definition; basically, any school that gets enough applicants that they can turn away a significant number and you're not guaranteed a spot simply by being on grade level and paying full fare. There's obviously a pretty wide range of schools in that list, but I think you're going to have a very hard time defining a clear cutoff between 2T and 3T, and everybody is going to insist that their school is on the 2T side of that line; I've seen some people put Fieldston in 2T and I've seen others insist they don't even belong in 3T.[/quote]

Riverdale is not TT.  There are 7 NYC TTs:  Trinity, Dalton, HM, Collegiate, Brearley, Spence and Chapin.[/quote]

If Riverdale is not TT, then how is Spence and Chapin TT? Also, why not Fieldston?[/quote]

They're better schools.[/quote]

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