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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Insane. Unimaginable.[/quote] Let's find out from the philosophy department what their rationale is, and let's also find out what exactly was being taight. But I suspect you don't want to, do you?[/quote] The article has the syllabus and it states specifically what was being taught: Plato, excerpts from Symposium: 180c –185c, 189c –193d, 210a –212b. https://www.platonicfoundation.org/translation/symposium/ The Platonic Foundation translations mean that the text follows Plato’s original structure, marked by Stephanus numbers (e.g., 180c, 189c, 210a). Each claim is tied to specific passages, not blended across speeches. Ideas are presented in the order Plato gives them, even when they repeat or develop slowly. Language tends to be literal and philosophical, preserving ambiguity and nuance. These excerpts from Plato’s Symposium represent three of the most famous speeches in the dialogue, each offering a distinct theory on the nature and purpose of Love (Eros). The excerpt that is most likely controversial is most likely 180-185C. Pausanias: The Dual Nature of Love (180c–185c) Pausanias argues that Love is not a single entity but is split into two types, Common Love ( purely physical, directed toward both women and men, and values the body over the mind) and Heavenly Love (the relationship between an older man and a youth, provided it is based on virtue). He argues that this love is honorable only when the older lover seeks to improve the younger's character and wisdom, and the younger seeks to learn.[/quote] More specifically, the porny part where "[size=18][color=dark red]the male generated in the female in order that by the mutual embraces of man and woman they might breed, and the race might continue; [b]or if man came to man they might be satisfied,[/b] and rest, and go their ways to the business of life[/color]:[/size] " https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1600/1600-h/1600-h.htm https://www.arlt-foundation.org/blog-post/the-origin-of-love-aristophanes-2 No idea why they want to censor that. Where would they get new Republicans from if they don't teach the culture to the Texas's future leaders? [size=18] But they who are a section of the male follow the male ... they hang about men and embrace them, and ... they have the most manly nature. ... they are valiant and manly, and have a manly countenance, and they embrace that which is like them.[b] And these when they grow up become our statesmen, and these only[/b]... When they reach manhood they are lovers of youth, and are not naturally inclined to marry or beget children,—if at all, they do so only in obedience to the law; but they are satisfied if they may be allowed to live with one another unwedded; [/size] [X] Lovers of youth (Donald Trump) [X] Legal sham marriages [X] Men with younger male roommates ("adopted sons" who already have parents) [/quote]
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