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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Mississippi has shown the way.  Direct instruction using tried and true methods with clear science (example: Phonics), avoid fads (whole language, balanced literacy, and other Lucy Calkins crap).  Teach kids he material directly, do not think they will learn by osmosis.[/quote]

Mississippi was 30th in the nation in 2024[/quote]

Mississippi used to be rock bottom:
Over the last 10 years, not only have Mississippi’s average reading scores improved but so has performance among student subgroups. It’s not just that Mississippi has raised the floor, it has also raised the ceiling, writes Kelsey Piper for The Argument on Substack. “They haven’t just caught up to your state; they are now wildly outperforming it.”

[b]While Mississippi fourth graders outperformed Minnesota fourth graders in reading on the most recent National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), their average reading score is also significantly higher than it was in 2013. Minnesota’s, unfortunately, is significantly lower than it was in 2013.[/b]

Among students of color served, the average reading score for Mississippi black fourth graders is significantly higher than 10 years ago, whereas the average score for Minnesota black fourth graders is significantly lower than it was 10 years ago
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If they are testing only the 4th graders who have been promoted- meaning only kids who are on grade level in math and reading- and comparing them to another state who does not hold kids back, is that an accurate representation of the students?

I love the idea that kids being help back are required to receive remediation. I do wonder how that works with the ELD and SPED population. I know at my kid's elementary school, 80% of the kids receive English language instruction and many came after elementary started- so what happens if a kid comes in 1st or second grade and is not on grade level by 3rd partly due to the language issue. Are they also held back?

Have there been long-term studies to show what happens to those kids who are held back? Do they make it to grade level and maintain that level through high school?

I know that Maryland is trying some version of this and am really curious about the details! [/quote]

Good Point![/quote]

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