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[quote=Anonymous]We have a professor in our family too. They moved their lab from a large public ranked below 50 to an ivy in the top 10 over a decade ago. They did their phd at a different ivy and their post docs at T30ish public. Their spouse was a professor and is now in industry. Their collective advice 5-6 yrs ago, was to look at the true picture of who are kid was and how they learned as well as how they compared to peers on nationally normed tests. They said pick a school where they will be top half but if they are a less confident kid, they need to be likely to be top 1/4. We used pre-TO data to get a general idea, as our older one had already toured many when TO became a thing. They also said professors are great at almost all schools, the difference they have to water down the content and slow the pace as the quality of student drops. Even T30-40 was different than ivy, and below T75 required very scaled down teaching and a high % of kids not prepared for college. They showed us how to look up professors on google scholar as well as high-citation lists, then figure out if the heavy- research faculty taught undergrads, and in addition did they have undergrads in their labs? The labs have websites or linked in will help. Humanities professors do research too so it matters for them as well though often not on highly cited lists. Over and over we found the trend that ivy/top private research universities tended to have the most active researchers as well as a high likelihood those professors were involved in undergrad life: teaching undergrad courses, advising, allowed undergrads in labs. The very large schools had much more shifting of undergrad teaching to new professors. The SLACS did not have the high caliber of STEM our premed and engineering kids were looking for but would have been great if not better in some ways for our humanities kid. BTW neither of these professor/former professors is concerned about AI taking jobs from top kids at any school, as they have explained the jobs "taken" will be entry level jobs for average college grads (1100 SAT, not aiming for MD JD phD and not in the running for top technical jobs if they are engineers) [/quote]
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