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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wesleyan’s web site also shows the SAT scores of all admitted students who submitted scores. It’s at the very bottom of the attached. Note that it includes all admitted and not just enrolled. So if a kid applies to Wes but they goes to Brown, they are included. To me, this shows the best shot at actual admissions, and I am not aware of anyone else doing this. The attached shows a median SAT of 1530 for admitted students. 25th is 1480 and 75th is 1560. https://www.wesleyan.edu/admission/class-profile.html I showed this to my kid with a 1500 applying to Wes, to suggest that one more sitting and maybe a 1530 might help. He told me now way. Oh well! [/quote] Most colleges show the stats of admitted students. Invariably the SAT is HIGHER for admitted students than enrolled students. It is a sleight of hand marketing ploy. [/quote] I see it as a better indication of who actually in. Common data set asks for enrolled not admitted so the median is not the median of who actually gets in. That’s what a lot of college coaches will tell unhooked kids to aim for the 75th% of the CDS. [/quote] I think some of you have lost the plot a bit. Yes, CDS is the best data for score distribution of admitted students. But the data is only good as what’s available. For example, only 39% of admitted students reported SAT scores at beloved Amherst according to its most recent available CDS. Amherst does not, to my knowledge, require all students to submit scores if the have them after admissions decisions have been made and before arriving. Presumably their distro would be wider if every student who sat for a test had to make it available to the school, unless all the whining about under qualified athletes, URMs, etc. taking spots from deserving applicants is BS (PS, it is). Other TO school’s distros skew higher and more narrow, at least relative to Wes, so get off of your sanctimonious high horse. [/quote] I think you actually missed the point. CDS shows enrolled not admitted so it’s not as insightful on admissions odds. Wes on its web site shows all admitted, even if they matriculate somewhere else, rather than enrolled. It’s higher number (1530) median, which is a better indicator for, say, an unhooked kid from a public high school. Here’s the link again. Test scores are at the bottom: https://www.wesleyan.edu/admission/class-profile.html If you are unhooked and relying on CDS for SLAC, even with low test rate, it’s best to aim 75th percent [/quote] No, this is my point exactly. Wes’s CDS provides an unrealistic view of what a competitive SAT score is for admissions. If you go back in the thread you’ll see that I made this point while referencing the class profile (I am a Wes parent if it’s not obvious by now.) [/quote] That’s why you have to look at their web site which shows median 1530 for all admitted even if matriculating elsewhere. CDS paints an unrealistic picture for all unhooked kids, even more at Wesleyan. Their CDS 50th percentile is 1420 but actual admit median is 1530 per the web site. Same for other schools. If a schools median in CDS SAT is 1500 like say Middlebury their media admitted student SAT is probably more like 1530 or 1540. [/quote]
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