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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Women were property. They had to exchange things to get shelter and goods of their own. In the 1970s and 1980s women started working for pay en masse.

Since the 1970s, some average/middle income  women accumulated money to spend freely (eg discretionary spending). As a response, some men have reacted by getting in on the game — and exchanging their services (attention / affection /car repairs) for women. They receive money, goods and other not-easily-monetized services.

You can substitute any gender / orientation into this common and age-old scenario  [/quote]

That’s just not true. Women worked together with men since the beginning of humanity.  It is the wealth accumulation in capitalism era allowed some men to take women as property [/quote]

Ok… Capitalism era is a very long time. Are you talking Adam Smith era?

Either way this exchange is not new -/ and I don’t think people should continue to feign shock and express judgement. It’s silly [/quote]

Somewhere since 15th century women could become wives and work for the household if upper society. Most still worked . Prostitution was very limited, considered against morals and contained.   it’s not like women were selling themselves en masse as a gender and the men were buying en masse. My great grandmother was working fields while married so were most other women in her village. [/quote]

Isn’t PP’s point that a woman even agreeing to marriage was the sale?[/quote]

Yes that’s his point : equalize married women to highly paid prostitutes. Which is wrong  at its core. He’s a sick individual who doesn’t understand that parenting is the hardest job in the world, and even in the wealthiest families wives performed as lot of social tasks and functions . Men married often to merge and preserve wealth, transfer legacy, give kids a certain status and upbringing, have secure household to fall back on between the wars etc 
Prostitutes offer none of that to men - they only give sex and receive money [/quote]

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