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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It all stems from abortion. I truly believe that.

A conversation with a fellow liberal made me think. He said that if the left had someone like Trump, they would get the same kind of following. Of course I was appalled and disagreed. But then he said, “Think about it. What if someone came along who would and could massively reduce gun violence, secure our reproductive rights, and even say the quiet parts out loud to the entire world.” I pointed out that reducing gun violence would save so many lives, and so would reproductive rights. And he pointed out that this is how they feel about abortions. They believe every abortion is murdering a baby. If you believed that, is there anything that would be more important to you? It made me think. I have to admit that I would probably be willing to put up with and justify a lot from someone who could accomplish those things.

I am NOT trying to make excuses or justify maga. I am still disgusted, disappointed, and confused by their loyalty to Trump. But it did give me a slightly different perspective. [/quote]

This isn't true though. They don't actually believe these things. This isn't about saving babies, because infant mortality RISES when you ban abortion care. And if they cared about babies, that care wouldn't cease the moment they exit the womb. They'd be fighting for affordable healthcare so having a baby doesn't cost thousands of dollars. They'd be fighting for paid parental leave so babies aren't thrust into daycare mere weeks after their birth. If they cared about babies, they'd be fighting for gun control so they stop getting murdered in their classrooms. And on and on.

There is no moral consistency to their beliefs. This is not about saving babies. Stop trying to redeem these despicable people. It's about hate and control. That's it. [/quote]

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