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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]More than one AO at T20 mentioned that it does not matter, but that taking PE as P/F gives an indication of the level of "gaming" in the application. The idea being, if a family is going to pay such attention to minutiae, they probably have a lot of support in the application process either via a knowledgeable parent or a private counselor. So they are going to be a bit more skeptical. [/quote]

Oh, please. Most kids decide on their own whether to take PE as pass/fail or for a grade. By high school, students have the ability to make this choice regardless of any parental influence. In fact, most parents probably don’t even pay much attention to how PE is graded. Admissions screenings use a point-based system, and those points come from the core classes themselves based on the rigor of the courses taken through the end of junior year. What admissions officers actually see isn’t the high school's transcript but a standardized breakdown of it, formatted into the college’s scoring template. The idea that admissions committees are scrutinizing PE grades to detect “gaming” is absurd—it’s just mass hysteria fueled by parents who obsess far beyond what’s reasonable.[/quote]

Default is for grade. Very very few students go to the trouble of submitting paper work to change it to P/F.

As you yourself mention, most parents dont pay any attention to this. Those that do are those that are heavily involved in the child's application. So it is a great "tell" for the AO.

[b]Very few colleges recalculate as vast majority do not take the grade information from the common app and rely on transcripts. So no one is inputting all the scores and recalculating.[/b]

There are half a dozen other tells like this where parents think they are being smart but are undermining the students. [/quote]

You’re asserting something that’s factually incorrect. Admissions directors at Virginia colleges have publicly stated that they do not use raw high school transcripts because formats vary widely by district. They scrub and standardize the data into their own template for all applicants. The UVA Admissions Dean has also gone so far as to note that they screen many electives, not just classes like Health and PE.  That’s the colleges’ stated practice—not a parent’s claim. Please check those sources before repeating information that’s false.[/quote]

Complete nonsense. You are twisting what Dean J was talking about.

So you think they input all the transcript data for each student into a database? LOL

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Go Check out what UVA Dean stated earlier to us fall about how grades are scored and evaluated by AOs. She saves all her posts to her IG profile. She couldn’t be any clearer. [/quote]

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