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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]More than one AO at T20 mentioned that it does not matter, but that taking PE as P/F gives an indication of the level of "gaming" in the application. The idea being, if a family is going to pay such attention to minutiae, they probably have a lot of support in the application process either via a knowledgeable parent or a private counselor. So they are going to be a bit more skeptical. [/quote]

Oh, please. Most kids decide on their own whether to take PE as pass/fail or for a grade. By high school, students have the ability to make this choice regardless of any parental influence. In fact, most parents probably don’t even pay much attention to how PE is graded. Admissions screenings use a point-based system, and those points come from the core classes themselves based on the rigor of the courses taken through the end of junior year. What admissions officers actually see isn’t the high school's transcript but a standardized breakdown of it, formatted into the college’s scoring template. The idea that admissions committees are scrutinizing PE grades to detect “gaming” is absurd—it’s just mass hysteria fueled by parents who obsess far beyond what’s reasonable.[/quote]

That’s your personal opinion. But if I imagine myself as an admissions officer after reading that post, I might think it looks like gaming. A student with straight A’s and no pass/fail courses  even with rigorous course comes across as a very strong applicant[/quote]

You’re not understanding the poster’s point. A pass/fail in PE doesn’t appear to the admissions officer. They don’t review individual high school transcripts directly; [b]instead, the data is scrubbed and entered into the college’s transcript template. That template excludes all PE grades, regardless of whether the student received an A, C, D, or pass/fail.[/b] Other elective courses are also sometimes screened out in many college-formatted transcripts used by AOs. I think the poster’s point is very valid.[/quote]

LOL

This is completely misinformed. There are very few schools that ask for student grades to be entered by the student. All the others are relying on transcripts. And no, they are hiring people to enter this data from each student's transcript into some database where they can manipulate this data. Schools that ask for data in SRAR or via Common App are like 1 in 10.[/quote]

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