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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A lot of workers are lazy in their 20s to 40s and it bites them later in career.

For example I have a 38 year old guy in my dept, nice enough, mediocre college, mediocre grades, bs major. Likes to WFH most days and when comes in he is running for door like building in fired at 425 pm.

No certifications. No graduate degree, no name brand companies on resume, half ass LinkedIn, does zero networking in work or out of work, little sloppy of a dresser.

He is good enough to get job done. No complaints about that. He is type of guy tell him what to do he does it. But not a free thinker.

What happens when he is let go at 55?

[b]I would be expecting by 55, he managed staff, had a certification, MBA, good dresser, professional LinkedIn profile, maybe spoke some conferences, some name brand companies, worked in some interesting things. [/b]

It is a pyramid scheme there are way less VP and up jobs than staff. So at 55 he is way too old staff and way less qualified than the other 55 year olds

He most likely if stays my company does his little job he may find we merged, got a new boss and out he goes.

But his little pee brain at 38 does not realize he is 12 years to 50 and once 50 he is toast unless he ups his game [/quote]

How old are you?

He can be all that I bolded and more, but if he gets a new boss, those at higher levels usually bring in a whole new team and out he goes.  And, you were right about the funnel, there are not enough VP jobs for everyone who is qualified to do a VP job.  Besides, lots of those jobs are up or out - they are not looking to hire a 55 y o who will retire from this job at 65; they are looking for a 40 y o who shows enough potential to be promoted in 5 years freeing a stepping stone for another then 40 y o.

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PP.  to add, at 55 no one cares about your degrees, certifications, or LinkedIn profile.  It’s all about connections.  If the conferences and brand name companies feed into that, that’s a plus.  If not, they mean nothing by themselves.[/quote]

Maybe true 30 years ago. It’s hard to imagine without a portfolio as a 55 year old designer or a 55 year old developer without GitHub lib.

A portfolio manager without track record.

A teacher without students.

Ohh what is this magical connection you are talking about?
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Lots of older developers aren't on GitHub. 1) It wasn't a thing when they were getting their first jobs. 2) By the time it was a thing, they had track records they could point to.

There are also developers who work in DoD/intel, including as contractors, and don't do GitHub. Small communities, lots of networking. [/quote]

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