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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Last place in gold (Open) is still better than first place in silver (National), right?

The question that should be asked is that why Metro 15 and 16, with so much talent, didn't even qualify for Open.[/quote]
I guess as an academic exercise, every team in Open is better than every team in National, and every team in National is better than every team in USA, and on and on. But if you know anything about club volleyball (or sports in general), you know it’s never that clear cut. The “stronger” team doesn’t always win and the performance of a team at any given event requires playing well at the right times, staying injury free, and perhaps a little luck. This applies to getting an Open bid (or any bid, really) or doing well at Nationals. Since we live in the real world, there are a lot of blurred lines.

Depending on the divisions, I think there are often a lot of pretty similar teams in adjacent divisions. For example, I’d argue that the top half of the USA division in almost every age group at Nationals is stronger than the bottom half of the National division in that same age group. Bids only available at qualifiers are much harder to get than the ones the regions allocate.

Even in Open it’s not always the strongest team on paper that wins. In 2022, Alamo 15 Premier didn’t earn an open bid at a qualifier but they applied for and got one of the at large bids. They were seeded 28th at the start of the tournament but ended up winning the 15 Open national championship. I don’t think they had the most talent or were the “best” 15s team in the country that year, but they did what they needed to do to win the national championship. 
[url]https://results.advancedeventsystems.com/event/PTAwMDAwMjU5MjA90/divisions/116741/standings[/url]

In terms of the Metro vs Paramount debate, I thought it was pretty widely accepted that the Paramount 16s had more talent than Metro 16 Travel? I am aware of two times that these teams played head-to-head this past season. At MAPL Hampton, Paramount 16s beat Metro 16 Travel 23-25, 25-22, 15-7. At Bid Regionals Metro 16 Travel bested Paramount 16s 25-18, 25-12.  Like I said, blurred lines.

Of course Metro always wants to get Open bids so congrats to Paramount on that achievement, but if your contention is that Paramount 16s going 3-7 and coming in 33rd in Open was a better tournament performance than Metro 16 Travel going 9-2 and coming in 2nd in National or Paramount 15s going 1-8 and coming in 29th in Open was a better tournament performance than Metro 15 Travel going 11-0 and coming in 1st in National, I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree. [/quote]

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