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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here is some good evidence. I just looked at teams playing in the girls ECNL finals starting tomorrow - should be some of the best teams in the country right?

Choose U15 (2010s) as an example. And yes they are. Teams are ranked in Soccer Rankings as follows:
#1
#2
#4
#5
#7
#10
#11
#13[/quote]
Yes but it's somewhat circular. The wins that those teams had in the last few weeks to get to the finals helped to boost their current rankings. In other words they are ranked high BECAUSE they are in the finals. Still, the rankings are useful as a blunt instrument just don't think there is a meaningful difference between the #1 and #13 ranked teams. [/quote]
The ranking app doesnt care about finals. All the matters is if a team scores more or less than the expected number of goals.[/quote]
I wasn't suggesting it cares that the games are called "finals". But the teams that are in the "finals" all played and won their last 4 games against other highly ranked teams. That helped their current rankings. The current rankings (which are recomputed regularly) take into account those last 4 wins. It's basically impossible to make it as far as the finals and not be a top re anked team by virtue of winning all those games including the games that qualified them for the champions league. Circular logic.[/quote]
Again, the ranking app doesnt care who you win or lose to. All that matters is that you win by more or less than the expected outcome.

The teams playing against each other in finals likely have 1-1 expected outcomes which means if the final scores is 3-1 the team that won up by 3 goals which was 2 more than expected will go up in ranking. The team that lost but scored 1 goal will stay the same ranking.[/quote]

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