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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Since these institutions have rushed back to test required and asserted that low sat scores are to blame for lower student quality, where’s the data? Furthermore, where are their peers who are still test optionals getting their students? [b]Since changing back, all I’ve seen are news articles complaining about the low student quality and that the kids can’t even read these days[/b]![/quote]

Because those news articles are complaining about low student quality in colleges that remain test optional.  Columbia in particular.

The test required colleges now do not complain low student quality anymore.  Show me any article that complains low student quality in test required colleges since that reinstated test requirement?  [b]None.  There is none[/b]!  [/quote]
Huh? The crimson mentions habitually about the lower student quality. Did we all just forget the article on them needing REMEDIAL coursework.[/quote]

Harvard's remedial math class began at a time when they reinstated test requirement only several months ago.  The remedial math class is a remedy for the students from test optional era.  [/quote]
They created a course for students who will be pass intro math courses? That makes absolutely no sense.[/quote]

They were fed up with years of lower student quality from the test optional era.  So they decided to have a remedial math class.  Obviously the decision was not made overnight at the last moment, it was decided at least a few month ago.  Simultaneously, they also decided to reinstate test.  You see both occurring at the same time.  The two decisions may be made independently, for example, one by math department another by admission office.  Both happened thanks to test optional students.  Why don't we wait for four years to purge out the present test optional students, and see what happens?  Be patient.[/quote]
I want to point out that Harvard had remedial math a decade ago and it has nothing to do with test optional.[/quote]

+1. Complaints about the decline in student quality also preceded test optional. It’s not about the test.[/quote]

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