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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]WES did not grow out of Judaism. Yes, one of the founders of ethical culture was raised as a reform Jew but saw emancipation from Jewish ritual as a path out of antisemitism - by partnering with disaffected Christians, Quakers, etc. There is no relationship between WES and Jewish beliefs or ritual, my understanding is that Unitarians still have Jesus as part of their doctrine, so is Christian-lite. [/quote] Unitarian Universalists do not have Jesus as part of the doctrine.  Actually, there is no doctrine.  The closest thing that comes to it are the Principles. https://www.uua.org/beliefs/what-we-believe/principles

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Correct - Jesus is not part of the UU doctrine and correct that there is no Jewish doctrine or ritual in ethical culture.  I just said earlier that UU grew out of Christianity and Ethical culture grew out of Judaism.  That is accurate.  look it up.[/quote]

Ethical culture did not grow out of Judaism. That is a false statement. It’s like saying Scientology grew out of Christianity.

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Ethical Culture was started by a Jewish Rabbi, Felix Adler, in NYC.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_movement .   In this way, it grew out of Judaism.   Thus, Ethical Culture is like Unitarianism, which grew out of Christianity, but is in no way Christian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism  https://www.uua.org/beliefs/what-we-believe/principles[/quote]

False. Felix Adler was not a rabbi. He was Jewish, but he was a college professor. Ethical culture was also started by ex-Christians spread in Europe with no connection to Adler. Thus, ethical culture did not grow out of Judaism. There are also Unitarians who see Jesus as a divine figure who inspires their humanism and charitable efforts. [/quote]

Your right that he was not a Rabbi, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Adler_(professor) but he went to rabbinical school, his father was a rabbi, he gave a sermon of his father's Temple in NYC, and he started the Ethical Cultural movement.  Ethical culture did indeed grow out of Judaism.

Regarding Unitarianism, there well may be individual Unitarians who see Jesus as a divine figure, but the institution does not. [/quote]

False. I would actually try reading the Wikipedia you posted and the source citations. Felix Adler never attended rabbinic school, and he was just one of many leaders of the global ethical culture movement. Adler was a Kantist, if anything, ethical culture grew out of that. But nope, ethical cultural did not grow out of Judaism in any way. Some of the anti-ethical cultural folks loved to say ethical culture was Jewish and communist- neither was ever true. [/quote]

I actually read the wikipedia page I posted and took back the original comment that Adler was a Rabbi. He was Jewish, however, and so was his father, a Rabbi.  And Wikipedia says Felix Jr originally intended to follow in his father's footsteps.   I think you are being overly defensive.  I am not one of the anti-ethical cultural folks you mention.[/quote]

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