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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes very common. Parents doing a lot of BS for their kids. On top of that, those same kids are cheating. Total joke when they get in to a top school.[/quote]

sure there may be some that fit the above, but most ivy/+ kids are extremely self-motivated, driven students who do not find the hardest high school classes terribly difficult, even at top prep schools. We have met many ivy kids through friends of our kids at different schools, both college and high school friends. The students who cheat at ivies, again very few, may be the same kids who have had lots of helicoptering from parents to help get them there, or may cheat for other reasons. However, they do not do well once there, because the majority there run circles around them! For one, cheating on papers is not hard to figure out by professors. Mine have known professors who caught it. Cheating on in-person long-answer physics or chem tests is almost impossible. 
The students not ready academically for ivies face huge mental health hurdles when they realize even if they start gunning hard they cannot get above the mean and frankly do not belong. There goes the med school or top finance dream. For the vast majority who got there on merit, it is nice to have 15%-20% or so that are easy to beat on tests, whether recruited athletes who would not have made it without the sport hook or helicoptered fakers who shouldnt have gotten in. just sayin. It all shakes out in the wash. DCUM parents need to worry less about others and let their kids end up where their kids are meant to on their own. The highly academic kids who just miss out on ivies but are equally qualified can go to a top school for med or law from --gasp--UVA or WM or VT. The cheaters at ivies wont get there, neither will the ones whose parents did most of the work in HS. [/quote]

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