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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I disagree. I am agnostic Christian. I don't have evidence or surety that God is real. But I hope against logic that He is. And I pray, go to church, and try to follow the way Jesus showed us.

The "leap into the absurd" resonates with me. If we have to be sure, then there's really no such thing as faith. [/quote]

You disagree with what? and What is an agnostic Christian?  DO you really think of yourself that way?  Seems to me that you can have Jesus for a role model without believing in the everlasting life stuff?

The way I see it -- most people don't have faith: they just hope that they will somehow continue to live after they die.[/quote]

I disagree with the OP.

I also disagree with the PP who says faith is believing (being sure) without material evidence.

I think Americans put way too much emphasis on "being sure" as the necessary foundation of religion. I guess it's part of seeing faith as a thing you shop around for rather than a thing you're part of a community of. [/quote]

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