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The reason I asked the question is because in that EC post, several people said to "just stop" or "don't curate" a profile and yet it seems to be universally accepted that without a hook OR curation/molding, top schools become out of reach.

It can't be that your (unhooked) kid can't want a top school AND you let it happen organically.

So, that is why I asked the question.

And of course location matters. I heard a top 20 school say that they have students from 49 states so if we know anyone from x state, have them apply. I think it is uncontroverted that a meh app from that state will be more favorably viewed (a hook) in order to allow the school to say it has students from every state. [/quote]

If getting into that Top 20 from South Dakota or wherever the 50th state is, is so hard that not a single student has managed it in 4 years, then wouldn't a kid who overcomes that barrier be a darn impressive kid, even if their achievement is compared to the kid whose parents did all these things:

bought a house in a W district 
"encouraged academics" (I can't figure out how that differs from pushing)
paid for extracurriculars
helped with their application (but somehow this wasn't curating)
applied full pay

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