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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I was shocked to find out that vaccines weren't double blind with placebos.[/quote] How in the F would you possibly administer placebo for horrific infectious disease in an ethical manner? How is science education m the US so bad? [/quote] And what would even be the benefit? We are so cooked as society [/quote] Exactly, you cannot run a double blind placebo controlled trial without clinical equipoise. This administration doesn't understand clinical trials 101 and is going to make the US 10000x worse for infectious disease. MAGA, by making it virtually impossible to develop preventative therapies for the worst diseases known to man. Can you imagine if we had this dimwit alive while smallpox was around? Imagine giving placebos to people with smallpox. Utter madness. [/quote] Actually, almost all vaccines in the US have gone through double blind placebo testing the only ones approved, not having done this, via the animal rule are: anthrax (three different ones I think) Ebola, and monkey pox/small pox. Education is useful. This just shows how dumber the administration is.[/quote] But that's only when it is ethical. If the news is reporting correctly, [b]RFK is saying it is for ALL. [/b] Here's some placebo kiddies, now go out and play in some zika infested woods. Yay. [/quote] And I’m saying that all approved vaccines already go through it in phase iii prior to their approval with the exception of the ones listed: anthrax, Ebola and monkey pox. This is not a new thing, it is already happening. There may be trials out there but anything deemed “approved” has already met these standards. The only thing I can think of is that he will make companies do them again (chicken pox or flu vaccine) where currently they are able to rely on the data of the placebo group from the original study. [/quote] The flu vaccine formula is updated very year to match the most recent flu strains. It will be literally impossible to a clinical trial with a placebo every year just to update the flu vaccine. That standard would effectively shut down production of annual flu vaccines because the timeline is too short and it would be cost prohibitive. [/quote] Do they make the flu vaccine in Canada or Mexico? Can Americans go across the border and just get some vaccines from our neighbors if we pay for it?[/quote] Yes, they manufacture flu vaccines in both countries and it should not be a problem to get one in either.[/quote]
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