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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why wouldn’t TM or WLC brag up their new recruits like any school program would . . . E.g., “We get students from NYC to Seattle.”[/quote]

Partial because with all of the 24-25 rosters on the tier 2 program websites, it would become obvious that many of the new recruits were 2nd liners on their old AA teams and not true AAA talent.[/quote]

Wow, what a rude thing to say, and based on the kids I know, not true at all.[/quote]

Don't get me wrong, you can build a solid team by putting together the 4th and 5th best players of every AA team in the area plus a few first liners, since you get good average talent. But it's not a AAA level team, which is why TM and WLC play AA in legit tournaments like Quebec Peewee.

If you took every eligible player in the area at a birth year, ranked them, then equally split the top ones onto two equal teams (WLC and TM), you'd have pretty solid teams. But that never happens, so many of the best players stick on AA rosters because WLC and TM are not convenient and haven't historically had the best development models.[/quote]

While the development model at TM and WLC is pretty bad, there is absolutely zero development at most AA teams in this area - at least in our experience. Too many Dad coaches or coaches who have no idea what they are doing. I have 2  players and between them we’ve hit AA, WLC and TM. I’d say it’s about equally bad at all. [/quote]

I see a lot of complaints about dad coaches and I agree parents can be hit or miss but for most of the teams out there there just aren't that many good paid coaches to be found. I use St James as an example - every time we play them they have 1 or 2 coaches on the bench and they hit the exit as soon as the game ends. They are usually college kids who played ACHA, it's not like they have years of coaching experience or played D1 or pro. Our team's coach is a dad who played D1 and has been coaching 10 year+. I'd rather him than one of those "pro" coaches who play in C level beer league.[/quote]

This. This. 100% this. It's insane how many people just see "professional coach" and don't realize it's someone who played on an ACHA D3 team with no tryouts and they have zero years of coaching experience. Just because you pay someone do do something doesn't mean they are good at it. If the best coach available is one of my son's teammate's parents, I'm fine with that. If they aren't doing a good job or are unfair, I'll talk to the organization and make them aware. But I've had much better experience around here with parent coaches than professional ones. Heck, Little Caesars has one of the best AAA programs in the country and they have a lot of parent coaches (granted, they are former NHLers).[/quote]

The difference between a "professional coach" and a dad coach is that the professional coach is someone else's dad or isn't a dad yet and gets paid for the gig. But let's be real here, you don't need NHL or D1 or even DIII playing experience to coach mites, squirts and peewees at almost all levels of competition. There are plenty of people with that experience who suck at coaching. With those ages, the job is more child psychology than the Xs and Os. At a higher level yes, it would be great to have more coaches in this area who have higher level experience and are also good at coaching but this area just doesn't have a lot of those people like other areas up north do. Maybe that will change over time. But if a 20 something with ACHA experience is a good human being who knows how to communicate and motivate children then they will be a great coach for 95% of the kids in the age group playing in this area. If a dad coach has the same qualities and doesn't favor or seem to favor his kid, then they should be allowed to coach too.

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