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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They sort of tossed the baby out with the bath water. This is one piece of the old system I agree needs re-added as they would help ensure the absolute top kids from a given school are the ones selected for that school. [/quote]

A test could do that better than recommendations.[/quote]

We’ll agree to disagree. I’d agree if so many families in the area weren’t prepping for the test. But since they do, a teacher who has observed the kids day in day out is my preference Vs a test some prep for and some don’t. [/quote]

People prep for the SAT and peer reviewed studies show that the SAT score is about the best predictor we have of academic performance at the high end of academic achievement.
https://opportunityinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SAT_ACT_on_Grades.pdf

So on the one hand I have peer reviewed research and on the other hand, you've got your gut feelings and preferences (which coincidentally favor white kids).[/quote]

The difference being EVERYONE prepares for the SAT. That is the process. It is far from universal for 7th and 8th grade kids to take weekend or evening prep classes to try to get an edge on a magnet entrance test. [b]Nor should it be.[/b][/quote]

That is your opinion.
I think it is perfectly reasonable for 8th graders to spend extra time, even a LOT of extra time on extracurricular academics.
[b]You basically want your values and standards to be everyone's values and standards[/b] and would rather see merit be ignored than measured in a way that rewards behavior that you don't like.
You don't want to subject your kid to academic competition at the tender age of 13.
You think 8th grade is too early to be studying hard.  
I think 8th grade is late in the game.

They will all be studying for the SAT at 15 or 16.
Having the best and brightest students study for the PSAT at 13 is not inhumane.[/quote]

:D 
Pot meet kettle! 
Yes of course it is my opinion. Where did I say otherwise. In my opinion they should be evaluating how good the kids do in school not how much EC academic prepping their parents are willing to make them do. Other people disagree as you do clearly but it’s just opinion either way.

Moreover your approach is the more controlling one - For kids to be able to compete it ends up forcing them into the 
EC academic rat race. 
My way just focuses on what they are doing in school (including if they are in higher math classes) and so keeps the door open to more kids. Teach recc’s would still help differentiate the tippy top kids from the others and yes I think teachers can tell. [/quote]

No they can't.  Study after study tells us about teacher bias in recommendations.  Peer reviewed research tells us that standardized test scores are the gold standard in predicting academic performance.  I am not opposed to teach recommendations but you simply can't dismiss test scores.

So once again I have peer reviewed research and you've got your gut feelings and preferences (which coincidentally favor white kids)[/quote]

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