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The default on the hytec computer system (this is what runs the swim meet results) is that anything that enters the computer system goes directly to meet mobile.  This means it is uploading the pad times.  If it is a 200, and the swimmer doesn't hit the pad at the finish, hytec initially takes the 150 pad time as the 'pad time.'  It also flags it so that the  operator corrects it and uses the button time.  Slightly different scenario, but if the swimmer doesn't hit the pad, the buttons stop, then while waiting for other swimmers to come in, like 2 seconds later, does hit the pad, the computer will take that late pad time as the 'pad time' and also flag it for the operator for correction.   As previously mentioned, this also doesn't include DQs.
If you are seeing results on meet mobile before a race is finished (e.g. heat results) then this default hasn't been turned off and they are meaningless.

The only scenario where I ever really see changes is if kid swam in a wrong lane/ wrong heat.   Ideally this is caught by a coach and the timers, and the table reseeds the swimmers to reflect what they actually swum.   But occasionally no one notices, and it takes a parent saying "my kid is showing as a no show, but he swam I watched him."  That is the only scenario that a parent should say something to a coach based on what they are seeing in meet mobile.  A variation of this would be "I noticed my kid was supposed to swim in Heat 3 lane 4, but I saw him swim in heat 2 lane 4, and his time is showing as different from what I saw on the score board when he finished."

Also- in terms of protests about a time- they are really uncommon.  The rules of how you determine a time are set forth by USA swimming- I'm not looking at my rule book, but here you go as a summary- The meet announcement lists the timing system- automatic timing (touchpads primary) is the most common.  The AO looks at the touchpad time and the button times- as long as one button is within .3 seconds of the touchpad time the touchpad is the time.  If the buttons are within .3 seconds of each other, but not of the touchpad- then the average of the two button times will be the time.  If the 2 buttons and the pad time are more than .3 seconds apart- or if one of those pieces of data is missing, and the two pieces of data you have are more than .3 apart- then the AO needs to gather more data.  The watch time comes in here- if the watch time supports the pad the pad will be taken.  The starter records order of finish- if the order of finish supports the pad, the pad will govern.  Sometimes they will go get a coaches time- if the coach used a watch vs just writing down what the scoreboard shows- the coaches time wouldn't be the 'official' time- but it might validate the pad time, etc.

The much more common 'time' protest really comes down to someone not swimming the right heat/lane so they were given the wrong time- b/c they were given the time of whoever did swim in their assigned heat/lane...   [/quote]  TThank you for the detailed explanation. It's fascinating to learn about the behind-the-scenes process of determining official times and results at swim meets.

There seems to be a lot of data and factors involved in validating a time or result. From watch times to order of finish, and even coaches' times, the process can be quite complex. Ultimately, it ensures fairness and accuracy in recording each swimmer's performance.

I imagine time protests are rare, as errors can easily occur when assigning times based on heat and lane numbers. It's understandable that everyone wants their performance recorded accurately, and I'm glad there are measures in place to address these issues.[/quote]

This was so cool.  Thank you.[/quote]

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