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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We flew into Milwaukee, rented a car and drove to visit.  Campus is beautiful, however, student population is very white[/quote]

Milwaukee is by far the smallest city in the Midwest. Wisconsin in the smallest Great Lakes state by over a million people. Yet it has the second best state university…[/quote]

UI-UC in the immediate region, and then UCLA, Berkeley, UVA, Texas, UNC, Florida, Washington and probably UGA, too. But “second” after all of them, sure.[/quote]

UVA, Washington, Florida, Georgia are you kidding me? Talk about a mismatch, Wisconsin’s graduate schools across the board are better. I meant second best in the Midwest, but when you started listing UVA and Florida’s dog water graduate schools I draw the line![/quote]

Oh, please, get a grip. [/quote]

No no idiot you get a grip! There is mass denialism especially among the UVA boosters in the DC area about just how bad UVA is. You’re not contributing to society or to academia if you have horrible graduate schools. In 100 years, people will look at Wisconsin and Berkeley and Texas and all the other schools who invest in their graduate schools as the true leaders of higher education.

UVA has to get over this fetish for investment banking and big law and focus on the future, like stem. Washington/Florida and those types of schools need to focus on educating the whole person and get top humanities and stem like Wisconsin has.[/quote]

Here’s a take. You’re right that Wisconsin is a better university than Virginia. But not for getting a job. The German model of research universities which Wisconsin conforms to is wrong. That’s because there is no such thing as “truth” and trying to find truth in academia is foolish. Just look at physics or philosophy nowadays….

UVA has one of the best business and law schools. You don’t need “top faculty” for the best law or business school, all you need is selective admission and elite employer reputation. I can’t think of two categories antithetical to Wisconsin’s brand. Again, there is no doubt Wisconsin’s PHD students are, as a whole, leagues more intelligent and qualified than a UVA student. But how are they gonna get a job?? That’s all that’s gonna matter at the end of day, and academia is one of the worst job markets out there.

I’ve met a lot of well off Wisconsin alumni, but they are almost always from undergrad, which Wiscy is just good but not great at. Many of them went to top professional schools after Wisconsin, using the academic reputation as a booster. [/quote]

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