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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nothing would ever change my mind, because I am Jewish and care for the Jewish people. I’m not going to change my mind as I watch the ongoing global Jewish genocide started by [Hamas](https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-weekend-essay/what-we-know-about-the-weaponization-of-sexual-violence-on-october-7th) and continued by monstrous Hamas terrorists in [American Universities all over the country](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna173110).

The only people at this point who do not whole heartedly support Israel are anti-Semitic terrorists cheering on the beginnings of the second Holocaust.[/quote]

OP here. Do you not see non-Jewish people as members of your fellow humanity in someway? For me (as a third party US non-Jewish, non-Muslim observer), it's very difficult for me to see anything besides the numbers at this point. Based on your response, I'm gathering that 1200 Jewish individuals killed on October 7th are considerably more valuable than the 25000-ish civilians killed in Gaza. I don't say this to be over critically... I get it. War is war and Hamas fights with Guerrilla tactics. You may argue this is cowardly or essential, but it is what it is.

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Dp. Every single one of those civilians would be alive today if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel and massacred 1200 kids at a music festival and a bunch of families living on communes. Hamas declared war on Israel and war is what they got. The death of innocent civilians - I'm thinking of children here and not the majority of adults in Gaza that support Hamas - is tragic. That is why most people avoid war. Rational human beings do not willingly engage in such destruction and death. But Hamas and their supporters in Gaza inexplicably chose to invade Israel and commit all those atrocities. No Israeli has set foot in Gaza in twenty years. And yet Hamas invaded. And thus, war.

All the German civilians that died in WWII - millions - would have lived out their natural lives if the Nazis hadn't invaded Poland. It's the same reality at play here. That is the nature of war. I don't care for Netanyahu and I am appalled at Israel's actions in the West Bank. But I very much believe that Israel is fighting a just war against Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Both groups are for the annihilation of Jews. And as long as such groups and governments exist, I fully support the right of Israel to exist and defend itself. As do the vast majority of Americans.  [/quote]

Prior to 10/7, Israel was so kind to the Palestinians - I mean, it’s not like they stole their land, massacred their families,  tortured and killed tens of thousands over the years, had a shoot-on-sight policy for anyone even stepping within feet of the absolute land, sea, and air blockade imposed on Gaza and the West Bank, humiliated them relentlessly, set lazy slob settlers on them with authorization to steal their land and kill as needed, or anything like that![/quote]

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