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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]She calls herself a fictional dentist, yet she recommends toxic commercial products that contain chemicals and fluoride. I would not consider her a holistic dentist in any way shape or form.

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Firstly, none of what I say is an endorsement for Dr Ellie - I'm trying to find the truth about what she says just as much as the next person. All of what I'm about to say is coming from the position of trying to be rational while trying to find the truth. So... to my response... :)

I've never heard her claim to be a "fictional dentist." Did you mean "functional dentist?"

In one of her videos that explains what her system is and why she recommends the specific products she does, she addresses the topic of fluoride and other chemicals. I personally think her explanation about fluoride is hand-waving (saying "ten minutes per day using fluoride isn't much of the day" ignores the possibility that ten minutes per day could be ten minutes too many). However, she does say that we shouldn't have it in our drinking water (and she fought, unsuccessfully, to get it removed from water treatment in Texas). She also said that if she were in a position to make the ideal products for her system, there would be no SLS and certain other chemicals in them. Essentially, she's coming from the point of view that people won't swallow the products (which is why she has different recommendations for young children, who would swallow them). Sure, that isn't ideal for fluoride or SLS getting into the body, but which is worse, ingesting/absorbing small amounts of those compounds, or having rotten teeth, with all the associated health problems that scientists are finding are associated with it? Someone with very robust teeth might want to limit their exposure to the chemicals, while someone with a lot of tooth problems might want to make a compromise that will lead to better dental health. Perhaps the optimum solution might be to fix the dental problems, then generally use non-fluoride/non-SLS products, but occasionally use them for a maintenance booster?

Whatever the case, getting heaps of fillings, root canals, crowns, etc isn't exactly holistic either, so if Dr Ellie's method works (maybe it does, maybe it doesn't - and this might vary for different people) perhaps using some products with fluoride and SLS in them might be a less problematic option for some people than eliminating them. I don't know whether she claims to be holistic, but she does say about gut bacteria (which are negatively affected by bad mouth bacteria), and she does seem to like the idea of limiting the use of certain chemicals, so rejecting what she says purely on a holistic criterion might not be entirely logical. If you were to get a deep cut, would you reject stitches because they're unnatural for the body? Or would you accept the stitches, knowing that it's the best treatment available to help the body to heal in the circumstances? Presumably, you would accept the stitches if they're needed. For some people, using fluoride-containing products might be the dental equivalent of stitches for a deep muscular cut.

I hope this helps to show that the situation might be a bit more nuanced for some people than holistic/not holistic, and that the most holistic (or least un-holistic) option for some people might be to use the chemicals, at least for a period of time. :)[/quote]

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