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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't understand that College forum.  Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive.  In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in).  Difficult, but hardly impossible.[/quote]

not impossible, but pretty difficult. the problem is also complete lack of transparency, so you don't even know what you need to do - apart from having 4.0, 10+ APs, 99% SAT - to get in. and if you try to help your kid, it looks manufactured, but if you don't, they won't know how to package themselves as having "leadership" and "impact".[/quote]

I wonder about this for Ivies actually. Doesn't that focus on leadership and impact attract awful, power-hungry people? Thinking Vance and DeSantis types. Why can't a kid be bright, but have no leadership ambition and just want to be a good, solid human and member of society? You can be a great, quiet researcher whose only ambition is to work in a lab and come up with a cure to something. And ideally, politicians should be community-minded people who don't want limelight, ego and fortune. So when it comes to stuff like kids who started charities to show "impact and leadership", I think it's more impressive for a kid to have worked at a food pantry for years getting absolutely no accolades but providing needed grunt work. [b]The system does not seem to favor humility or good values at all.[/b][/quote]

yes, and it also does not value well-rounded kids with high EQs.   Go tour some top20 universities.  The kids (especially those on the tours) are a noticeably odd, intense bunch.  It is striking.  My kids are top students but pretty laid back, super social kids.  they don't see "their people" at these schools at all--even at schools that were historically known to be smart but more social (Northwestern, Vanderbilt).  this is a VERY common refrain among their school friends as they also tour schools and posters on DCUM as well (there have been multiple posts about this).

[b]It is a certain type of kid who is going to put up with the BS of the top college admissions game needed in 2024 and it it often isn't those who are socially well adjusted.  [/b][/quote]

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