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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you do it for some, do it for all. Don’t give one group an advantage the others don’t get.

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What does this mean?  My proposal is that anyone who plays a high school team sport gets a semester credit for PE.  But if you don't play a high school team sport you have to take PE.  Do you have a problem with this?[/quote]

(Why so aggressive?)

“Kid would rather take a different elective.”

Taking a different elective like another AP class that strengthens their college applications? Like that?

How many kids do you think would rather take a different elective? How many do you think are involved in sports and other extracurriculars outside of school?

Why should the basketball/football/whatever team get the opportunity take a different elective? What makes them special?
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If someone can successfully complete a full courseload, a varsity/JV sport, and then (by opting out of PE) an additional AP class? More power to them, I say.

But this is DCPS, and if people star squawking about fairness, it will never get done.

Would you be satisfied if the kids could get the PE credit but not enroll in another class — i.e., do study hall or something? Students on varsity/JV sports spend a lot of extracurricular time doing it, which obviously cuts into time that they could spend on homework or other pursuits.  A system like this could give them at least some of that time back, by freeing up their duplicative PE period.  Which would make things more fair![/quote]

“Squawking about fairness”?  Fairness is bad? (Ignoring the part where you “squawk about fairness”.)

Students on varsity/JV sports *choose* to spend a lot of time doing it. There is no requirement. Other kids choose to spend a lot of time doing something else, like another non-school sport or music. Some students spend a lot of time doing something they don’t choose to do like baby-sitting a younger sibling, etcetcetc. Why should the kids on the school teams get some of that time back but no other students? What makes them special?

If someone can carry a full load, including an extra AP instead of PE PLUS work that part-time job or take care of family, even more power to them.

I think they should eliminate the PE requirement entirely. Students on sports teams could take whatever they want (incl study hall) and so could every other student.

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It's not so much that it "makes them special" as that they are already doing the physical activity (usually much more intensely than they would in a PE class) that is the whole point of the PE requirement.  They're not getting out of the requirement — they are satisfying it.

Fairness is fine, but it's a problem if we can never do anything to make anything better for anyone because of the specter of it being "not fair" for someone else.  This is a common sense policy that is in place in most states.[/quote]

A lot of students are already doing the physical activity outside school.

How would it be a problem to allow all students to “choose their elective”?

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I see the merit of a PE requirement, especially considering the general state of American health/fitness.  So I support that being required.

If a student participates in rigorous athletics, it makes sense to consider that requirement satisfied.  It seems administratively easiest to limit it to school JV/varsity sports, but many school systems have come up with reasonable guidelines for outside sports activities as well (number of hours per week, coaching, etc.).  Whatever policy is decided on may not capture student X who jogs every morning, but student X isn't any worse off than she was before, so who cares.

If "a lot of students" are doing sufficiently rigorous sports to waive the PE requirement, then waive it for a lot of students. Who cares what the number is.[/quote]

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