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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m just happy that people aren’t putting 3 at the top. There’s too many PhDs coming out of the Ivy league, let alone the rest of the T50, to even begin suggesting that there’s some extreme difference in education. Unless your kid is on the bounds and is highly highly intelligent (like top 0.001%) where they need specialized/accelerated instruction to the level of grad school near freshman year, you’re probably receiving a very similar education to others.[/quote] Even a standard freshman course like math 2230 at Cornell will exceed the level of rigor of any freshman math course at most lower ranked universities[/quote] Cite?[/quote] They can't, because it's not true. I went to Cornell then transferred over to UChicago for Physics. The math homework I'd share between my courses and state school friends was the same. The rigor was different, but the overall course content was not. People just don't do apples to apples comparison. If your child is at Harvard and able to get through and succeed in Math 55, yeah-they're receiving an exceptional education and will be ahead of other students very quickly. Interestingly, European mathematics students/professors think Math 55 is a poorly shaped course in terms of the range of content, but I'm not a mathematician... One college's Math methods for physics (for example) isn't another's. UChicago splits the course into two and the first and second quarter is basically a calc 3, linear mix and the third and fourth quarter gives you the fun-Complex Analysis, PDE, advanced linear, etc. Meanwhile, at DC's LAC Pomona, all of that is taught within a few more added math topics in what amounts to 2 quarters. Neither is actually more difficult than the other ones, even with very different rankings, but the content is introduced in different courses at different times.[/quote] Interesting points…but how does transferring between top 15 schools (Cornell to Uchicago) disprove PPs point? You also then reference Pomona which is a top 5 LAC. [/quote] You make a great point that these are all good colleges (DCUM bias admittedly). So, lets find a public university's syllabus! I only have access to an old syllabus from William and Mary, but they have almost the same course books as Pomona. It goes through a few less topics, but nothing that couldn't be covered in another course. For a curve ball, Ole Miss also uses the same book and goes over slightly fewer topics. All of these colleges likely have a decent level of education, even with dramatically different education. I wanted to see the faculty's education at Ole Miss, and it is filled with elite colleges. It really all comes down to networks for the top colleges.[/quote]
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