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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Through social media, I’ve noticed that there are a few local players who moved to academies outside of DC.

How did they do that? Did they reach out to those clubs when they were not scouted by DCU? Or did they move there from DCU? How would one get into those clubs without triggering interest from DCU? Or is that not possible? That is, those clubs are required to disclose to DCU that a player in their region is being considered at their club?[/quote]

Boys or girls?[/quote]

Boys[/quote]

Re: Boys

Many of these destination academies have paid scouts. Charlotte and NCFC, like DC and Loudon FC have men’s pro teams (MLS and USL Championship leagues). Their scouting is a lot different from those like the Kickers in USL1 because the attached academies have more meaningful contract potential, with obviously DC United and Charlotte greater than London or NCFC. IMG also does this, but their model is a bit different, the ex-placement from youth is more NIL driven than contract / transfer / solidarity fee based.

The pro-clubs also tend to scout and poach from MLS Next clubs. MLS Next clubs still haven’t bridged the gap that MLS Academies have in terms of pathways to professional teams. And the pro-academies are free, vs the paid clubs.

Outside of that, lots of kids move because in another market they can play top team vs 2nd or 3rd team in their original market. That makes a huge difference in looks if the boy wants to play in college. Those moves are largely player driven, not scouting driven.

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[b]Just to add on this too, signing with a US Academy (like United, Atlanta, Charlotte, etc) kills US Boy’s chances to play overseas.[/b] So you might get a little FOMO for your kid when you see these “movers and shakers” getting recruited out of market. But you should know that signing / move likely closed 90% of the doors for that athlete.[/quote]

Why would that kill a player’s chances? Wouldn’t it be easier because they’ve been vetted by a pro team?[/quote]

Training fees, transfer fees and solidarity fees. Turns a $100k prospect into a $400k gamble.[/quote]

So training or solidarity fees are still payable to a non-MLSNext Academy club but that would be a lot less since those clubs are a lower category? Does that sound right?[/quote]

MLS Next also gets those fees. And / or any academy or club.

A very every simple approximation of how this goes is:

Let’s say a kid goes to DC United Academy, but wants to go to Man City Academy when they turn 16.

Man City says internally, “hey, this kid will cost us $250k to develop.” DC United says, “the kid has cost us $150k so far, Man City, we’ll transfer him to you if you pay us our costs.”

Man City runs their numbers, “$250k + $150k = $400k training. Do we think we can then sell him to a pro team for a first contract of ~ $1.5m? Don’t know yet because we haven’t worked with him. But we were sure we could at least get $750k. $400k is too expensive for us, we’ll pass” [/quote]

That's a false analogy. 
Unless the Manchester City scouting department left the Middle School Intern in charge of the scouting and valuation. 
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