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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think of Jewish as a religion. For example if a Ukrainian Jew converts to Catholic that person is still Ukrainian but no longer Jewish. I think they can still celebrate Jewish culture but I would no longer think of them as Jewish. Judaism is a faith because it’s based on a set of beliefs. [/quote] You can "think of it" however you want, but Jewishness relates to ethnicity, religion, and culture - all three. Judaism is based on much more than a set of beliefs, religious or otherwise. A Jewish person can convert to Catholicism but from the point of view of Judaism, they are still Jewish - culturally and ethnically - even if they practice another religion. [/quote] Yes, sure, [b]but why the need to go to a synagogue if they are no longer a practicing Jew, who doesn't believe in the Jewish faith anymore?[/b] The initial question from OP doesn't make sense. They need to go to a messianic congregation if they want to continue to feel Jewish but express and live out Christian beliefs. Seems pretty simple to me.[/quote] This question exposes your ignorance. Going to synagogue is not the marker of Jewishness. Synagogue attendance for Jewish people is not the equivalent of church attendance for Christians. Messianic congregations are Christian churches.[/quote] DP, but you're the one who's not making sense. The question for OP is [i]why[/i] does this person who converted from Judaism to Catholicism want to return to synagogue for services? If they believe Jesus is the Messiah and have converted to Catholicism, there is nothing more [i]religiously[/i] for them in Judaism. Ethnically/culturally, yes, I'm sure they will retain some elements of their Jewish identity. But I don't see how/why one would go to synagogue and pray for the coming of the Messiah (or Messianic age in Reform services) if you believe the Messiah already came, or if you believe that the New Testament replaced the covenant in the Tanakh. I think the suggestion of Messianic congregations was made [i]because[/i] they are Christian, so someone who is religiously Catholic, but still wants to feel Jewish sometimes could go there to their [i]Christian[/i] services with some trappings of Judaism.[/quote] Yes, thank you. I am the "ignorant" PP who has said find a messianic congregation multiple times. The whole point of messianic congregations is to have the feel of "Jewishness" but you are worshipping Jesus, which is obviously not in alignment with the Jewish faith. But I'm the dummy! (sarcasm)[/quote] I think PP has misread you and/or OP. Seems like a simple case of misunderstanding that PP is taking too far with name-calling. We seem to all be in agreement that Messianic congregations are churches and not really Jewish.[/quote]
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