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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What's an average MAP-M score for compacted Math in winter of 5th grade?[/quote]

It varies a lot based on schools and how much outside enrichment/exposure to topics that children have received. In my 5th grade class at a Title 1 school, the average is around 235. Within the class, there are a couple of students who score as low as the low 220's (which very much matches who should absolutely not be in the class) up to my highest student scoring 250.

I know from people on this site that this is not comprable to kids in the higher SES schools, but I'm quite proud of my students. They don't get extra support at home and work so hard and their scores reflect that![/quote]

Your average is 235 at a Title 1? Something isnt adding up here for sure.[/quote]

Do you think that is high or low?

In a Compacted 5-6 class, for kids who are actually ready for 5-6 and also not doing Math 8 Prealgebra at home, that's a normal average.

An average (nearly drowning) 5th grader scores 218, so CM kids should be scoring 1-2 years higher due to compaction (exposure) and to generally being better more able math students than average.

Bright kids who are studying enrichment at home / AOPS / RSM are getting up to 255 for "grade level enriched", or higher if they are already long been on an accelerated track and are now doing prealgebra or algebra(!) classes at home.
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Don’t the CM 5th graders take a different test? My CM 4th grader reported multiple scores in the 240s in her class. But I am assuming those are higher than what you are saying about 5th because it’s not the same test?[/quote]

The scales are calibrated between tests. But since the test tries to cover such a wide range of levels,  some kids who are very good at grade-6 math but have no exposure to higher math, have a "cliff" in their ability that MAP does not model, so their scores drop when they switch from MAP 5 (really 6- content) to MAP 6+ which has headroom through Algebra 2 topics.

Students with a more smooth ability distribution, who are very good at lower math and also OK at higher math (where "lower" and "higher" both increase every year) don't see that drop when they switch tests.

Also, scores are variable, especially at the high end, because kids can get lucky or unlucky with the question selection on advanced topics, or have varying levels of perseverance to solve the hardest questions on their (personalized adaotive) test, or have a bad day. So any kid can have an anomolous jump up or down for one test, before reverting back to normal trend.
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