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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well I’m of European ancestry and I’m atheist. I stay culturally close to Christianity because
Christianity is central to all our cultural things. And obviously I have very little problem with this because [b]Christianity stole all the pagan culture and customs[/b] from them to create their own anyway. [/quote]

This has been refuted many, many times here. And, of course, it's been refuted by actual historians. For starters, although there are lots more historians saying the same thing: https://podtail.com/en/podcast/the-rest-is-history/402-christmas-pagan-or-christian/[/quote]

Instead of posting a link to a podcast, why not post the facts presented here?  Not all of them, just the best one refuting the MANY sources indicating the opposite.[/quote]

DP. You get what you give.  If you want someone on a message board to refute your thesis in detail, you first need to provide a detailed thesis, which you haven't done. It's all been laid out in this award winning atheist blog...but you have to do the actual work of reading it.

https://historyforatheists.com/the-great-myths/5 [/quote]

+1. That's a good blog that engages with actual professional scholarship (and the primary sources or relies on) on this topic, which is rare in these discussions. The "sources" that tend to get cited on this topic in DCUM are usually light on scholarship and primary sources. That same blog's "Paganism" tab has other good articles they've done. The interview with Dr. Nothaft, for instance, is a good listen for issues with the dating of Christmas, where the pop history version isn't much supported by actual evidence.

Unfortunately, I've never seen this evidence sway anyone. "Christianity/Christmas/Easter has pagan origins" is a belief that I think a lot of people just accept on the authority of pop historians rather than looking for primary sources supporting it.[/quote]

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