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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Also if you land a coveted tenure track job, and get tenure, you may have another host of problems.

I work at a mid-tier liberal arts college as an administrator and I can’t tell you how many of these faculty are bitter, depressed individuals. They come to the realization that this “brass ring” is forever. Not all colleges are in idyllic Boston; there are a lot in the sticks of South Carolina or Ohio.[/quote]

NP. This is really interesting.  It seems like most of the challenges posters are talking about involve how hard it is just to land a position and get tenure.  But it seems like after that should be smooth sailing - a job for life, can never get fired, the true "ivory tower" bubble *forever* as you mention.  Does the pay also go up a lot once you get tenure?  If you are making a high salary relative to locals in low cost of living areas like South Carolina, that does not sound too bad at all![/quote]

LOL no. I can't speak to places like Harvard and MIT, where the vast vast majority of professors don't work, or even UMD or UVA, but the small private and public colleges that make up most of the institutions around the country do NOT pay high salaries relative to locals and do not significantly increase salary with tenure. Pay is on par with small nonprofits.

I'm married to a professor at one of these types of schools, and friends with many others. They make around 60-65k pre-tenure and they'll be lucky to go in to 70-75k after. Yes, these include people with STEM PhDs, who are making less than the 22 year old new grads they tauht because it's their passion.

Just don't go into academia. [/quote]

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