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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't know why folks assume there are no consequences all the time. Just because YOU a random parent don't know about the consequences doesn't mean that they don't happen. The school has to protect the privacy of students and therefore, if they find out who the person is, can not divulge that info or the disciplinary action. Anyway, knowing what I know about the Gunston principal there is zero way she will let things just go without consequences there if we find out who the kid is. I mean kids are getting detention for not being ready to work in class (i.e. failing to bring supplies). Do you REALLY think they are going to just let this go if they find the person. She is a former police officer, she isn't averse to discipline. But anyway, I am sure the school would love if they can ignore it, but they can't because one time it might be real and they can't take that chance. [/quote] I assume this because I work in a school. Last year a kid brought a knife to threaten classmates. He was back the next day[/quote] That doesn't mean that NO consequences happened. That means that the specific consequence of expulsion and suspension didn't happen. Furthermore, under the law students do get due process which means they need written/oral notice and then an opportunity to explain. Individual schools don't even have the authority to issue long term suspensions (this is from the superintendent) and only the school board can expel kids. Then there is a WHOLE set of other complications if the student has a disability. So don't blame individual schools they are generally bound by law which restricts their ability to issue certain consequences in a timely manner. [/quote] I am absolutely not blaming individual schools and worked in special Ed for many years. That wasn’t a factor in this case. There is a systemic problem with how we deal with serious behavior issues in this country, especially over the last 10 years. [/quote] Well, I agree with that. But I do think it does have to do with the legal handcuffing of schools to handle these issues. All that being said, do you think consequences make a difference? My MIL teaches in a school in Texas that still uses corporal punishment and isn't shy about other discipline issues. They still have lockdowns and issues like this. We still have crimes being committed in this country even though there are obviously consequences. I don't think consequences are necessarily going to change or put an end to behaviors. Kids will always continue to live a life as is consequences don't apply to them. But i know it would make other parents feel better if they knew about consequences and those consequences were severe and I don't really have a solution on how to stop the lockdowns or how to stop kids doing stupid things like this. Kids have likely been writing threats on bathroom stalls since whenever bathroom stalls were invented. We have to react to it the way we react now because we are a population that lives in fear of the next school shooting. The lockdown wouldn't have happened 30 years ago because we would have just ignored it. [/quote]
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