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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A) because for most UMC and wealthy families there is a stigma (though there should not be) about community college
[b]B) the classes you have to take and get a 3.5 in to be eligible will likely be difficult, so there’s no guarantee you’ll get into a better 4 year college than you would have just going straight through 
C) it’s not just about the name on the degree.  College is also about finding a community and creating friends and learning to live independently.  Community colleges are commuter. [/quote]
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All of this. My sister's family is in California where the CC->UC path has a better reputation but the other challenges apply. My nephew opted for CC when he didn't get into his preferred UCs and the options were Cal States or UCs he didn't want. He was a strong student in HS but hit with a bad illness junior year that derailed his grades. Started CC planning to transfer to UC Davis. And then blew his first year of CC because he wasn't really investing in school, he had a job he liked and spent way too much time focused on that + a girlfriend who didn't go to college. He eventually pulled it together but now can't meet the UC transfer requirements and will be transferring to a Cal State, after spending a fifth semester at the CC repeating some of the classes he did really badly in his first. His transfer school does have a good program for what he wants but he could have gone there straight from HS and would have spent those two years developing relationships with professors, getting involved in campus activities or research projects, building up his social network, etc. [/quote]

This kid would most likely also have crashed and burned if he'd done the "traditional" path of starting at Cal State or an "undesirable" UC. He is not a good example of why doing the community college to four year school path is not a good idea.[/quote]

IMO, watching how it played out he absolutely would have done better starting at a 4 yr. His challenges came from not being focused on his primary job being a college student. He was hanging out with kids who were either not in school or didn't care much about it ( his main HS friend group moved away to college ) and had a job where most people didn't go to college and a supervisor who didn't care that he was in school. All things that would have been different if he was living at a 4-year college and working an on-campus job where they expect school to be your priority. [/quote]

If he was "not investing in school" at the community college then he would have "not invested in school" at a four year. I saw it happen many times at a 4 year despite those kids living with other college kids. Some kids just aren't ready for college yet when they graduate from HS.[/quote]

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